Originally posted by FinalAnswerSauron's implied power and what he did do on screen was turn the entire tide of the battle. The problem is we don't see enough of him but since he powered the Nazgul and we see what their leader can do to Gandalf we know Gandalf can't just tk the ring off of him. It's pretty obvious that Sauron is far greater than Gandalf.
Sauron lacks the movie feats to beat either of them, his biggest flaw being in terms of speed. Saruman was killed by a knife wielded by Grima. Sauron's movie incarnation is vastly overrated.
Originally posted by Turr_PhennirI've seen far less take out jedis under order 66. Sauron's influence over the world still >>dark side of the force. Sauron's power alone fueled Mordor unlike Palpatine who just outmaneuvered and put himself behind a galactic empire.
It's also implied in the SW films that the ability to a destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the Force.Destroying planets >^13 turning the tides of battles. 😐
Originally posted by RE: BlaxicanDue to him placing his power in the ring so his physical form can't survive without it. The guy destroyed a sword simply by stepping on it. A lucky strike which separated his ring from his body doesn't mean that bum has a chance against him in a forum fight. If the ring easily is separated from him why was the Alliance sh--ing bricks when he started powering through them ?
I've seen far less take out Sauron. 😐It was a guy with a broken sword...
Originally posted by RobtardDue to his resources throughout his galactic regime.
Sauron threatened part of a planet. Palpatine threatened a galaxy.
Originally posted by RE: BlaxicanI don't think so. The magic involved in LOTR would defeat them. The magic involved along with the Nazgul would defeat the clone army. The unfair advantage Star Wars has over many other fictonal movies is it spans over a galaxy unlike Lord of the Rings.
It's not really tricky. The Clone Army with its advanced technology would steamroll any force in the lord of the rings movies.Similarly, Yoda would steamroll anything in the Lord of the Rings movies.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was turning the tide of an epic battle soon as he started attacking. It was stated right on film. Palpatine never had that sort of influence. Palpatine actually tried fleeing from Yoda and was beaten down by Windu.
Point is, Palpatine orchestrated the setup of a galactic empire with himself as the head. He's a pretty big deal.
Sauron was beating by an injured man with a broken sword. I don't think anyone would argue that Isildor could take on either Yoda or Mace and be any sort of a threat, even uninjured.
Originally posted by RobtardHe is a big deal but most of his success was through manipulating both sides to achieve his goals. Sauron achieved his goals with the forging of his rings in the same manner but my point was on the battlefield Palpatine wouldn't bring the same deflating presence Sauron brought which was seemingly turning the tide of battle himself.
Point is, Palpatine orchestrated the setup of a galactic empire with himself as the head. He's a pretty big deal.Sauron was beating by an injured man with a broken sword.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is a big deal but most of his success was through manipulating both sides to achieve his goals. Sauron achieved his goals with the forging of his rings in the same manner but my point was on the battlefield Palpatine wouldn't bring the same deflating presence Sauron brought which was seemingly turning the tide of battle himself.
Palpatine lead from the rear, this is true. Considering how it turned out for Sauron, seems Palpatine was the smarter leader too.
But yes, a hulking giant in armor is more fear inspiring than a pedo-looking old man in a robe.
Edit: But there's another way to compare, say we replaced Sauron with Palpatine in the War of the Last Alliance, Palpatine would have wrecked the human/elf/dwarf armies and he wouldn't have fallen for the cut-my-finger off trick due to battle-precog.
Well Sauron "led from the rear" as well. In the books he has a body the entire time, and in RotK we see his body briefly when Aragorn challenges him with the Palantir. The only time he emerged was when he was loosing the Siege of Baradur in the War of the Last Alliance. But, yes, movie Sauron does not really have the feats to win this.