Originally posted by Korto Vos
Yes. It. Does.You're saying that because Gandalf doesn't know Occlumency, he will lose to Voldemort because the Dark Wizard can use Legilimency to win.
Yet, Harry Potter, who is depicted at failing Occlumency, holds his own against one of the best Legilimency practitioners of all time. The is only possible because of his sheer willpower.
And Gandalf is bursting with willpower.
Sure, this line of discussion doesn't need to be entertained because it plays no factor in this duel, as it short as it will be.
Unfortunately for you, you fell directly into a trap: Harry Potter has absurd will power, as well. He resisted the imperius curse when cast upon him. Impero is not the same as legilmens, however.
Harry Potter LATER gained the ability to use Occlumency against Voldemort through using strong emotions (his own version of Occlumency).
In other words, you just proved my point. Not only does Gandalf lack the knowledge of it, he doesn't know the magic to repel it, either.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Voldemort disarming Harry is a "combat situation"?! -.- WTF?
And I explained why, already. No amount of strawmanning that point will dimish it, either.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Considering Voldemort's favoritism to the Killing Curse, the spell's semblance to the physical nature of Avada Kedavra, and Voldemort's opponent (Dumbledore), yes, as a matter, it is Avada Kedavra.
As fact, it is not. It wasn't spoken. He embued it with lightning.
Seems it was something else. 🙂
This is also something that I will not entertain any longer: deal with it not be the killing curse. 🙂
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Except, you see, it doesn't.Watch that clip again. Even for as easy as it was for Voldy, he still had to snarl and throw down his arm with pace, both of which indicate some exertion. But uhh...Gandalf just stood still and emerged from the smoke completely unfazed and unimpressed.
Watch the clip again: it occured quite quickly. Not ony did he block the spell from Harry, he reversed it back on Harry. This all occured in a much smaller time span than the fireball from Saruman to Gandalf AND before Gandalf could negate the fireball into nothing.
By feats, Voldemort is faster and more efficient with his magic reversal.
Deal with it. 🙂
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Are you a pro at dodgeball? Because I see a rather impressive evasion of all my earlier points here. 🙂Once again, wizards are limited to basic spells without their wands. But, in all of the instances you have provided, the spellcasters still hold their wands and therefore are still drawing upon the instrument's magic conduit to produce those actions.
You had to have to actually made a point for me to address them. You dodged MY points, not the othe way around. I pointed it out, as well. You can't simply reply with "no u" comments.
And you say Wizards are limited to basic spells without their wands.
Define that.
TK is not basic.
Transmutation is not basic.
Engorgio is not basic.
Yet, you say they are basic.
Keep in mind that the wands themselves simply channel the magic of the wielder.
You say he used his wand to do that TK, I say he has the TK feats to prove otherwise. Obviously, I'm right and your interpretation is wrong (I'm not joking or making a snide comment, either). What more proof do you need that he has the wandless TK ability to do that than when he tossed aside the dead giant in Deathly Hallows, part 2?
What more do you need than the Death Eater standing on the train tracks and stopping a moving train with his hand? Surely you recognize that his subordinate is weaker than he is in TK? Else he be the subordinate?
Voldemort loves his TK, that's clear.
He has far more uses of TK than he does the killing curse. So you should amend your position of the killing curse as being his first move. More likely, he'll use TK.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Eh? Yoda vs. Sidious2:40 onward...
Thank you for sharing. It's irrelevant to my point and off topic. My fault, of course, but there is not greater exercise in disciplined TK other than some God-like characters: Dr. Manhattan, Dark Phoenix, and so forth.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
You were touting the TK blow there, and I was countering how it was extremely unimpressive.And oh yeah, not a combat situation.
Wrong: I pointed out Voldemort's MO to you and you went off on a tangent abou Quanchi and forcing HP to take a bow. It was irrelevant to the actual point I made.
Go back and re-read it.
To it not being a combat situation, you're wrong:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/combat
"To oppose in battle; fight against."
Did Harry Potter oppose Voldemort or fight against him?
Yes, yes he did. Boom, combat situation.
Now stop playing games.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Completely wrong.This is just sad because even Voldemort in the film is trying to get Potter to stand up to him like a man and engage him in a proper 1v1 wizarding duel, where two combatants who are ready stand and face each other a slight distance apart. And that occurs at 3:10 in the video.
Seems all you like to do is call anyone who disagrees with you a "liar." Pathetic.
I'll just do what you replied with: no u.
It was a combat situation. One-sided, but it was combat.
Deal with it.
You mad because you were wrong about Voldemort's MO? Does that destroy the only strand you were grasping for why Gandalf would win?
That's probably it because there's no reason to support a case for why Voldemort would come out of the gate with a killing curse: there's literally dozens of other ways Voldemort can kill Gandalf. So it would seem you think you have some sort of good case against Voldemort (you don't...it's actually sad) in favor of Gandalf.
But, by your definition, that was a combat situation. So, you just shot yourself in the foot there, sir! WEEE!
Would you call an ambush in the middle of the night a combat situation (don't answer...because it is a combat situation, even if none of the other side puts up much of a resistance...just ask you brothers in the military)
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Another wrong statement. You do this a lot.
So you've basically started saying to me what I've been saying to you?
Again, you have to do better than "no u".
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Gandalf's pyrokinesis was instant and spontaneous and required no movement from his staff, unlike Saruman's.Saruman's spell was a fireball. Gandalf's ability is instant pyrokinesis. Learn the difference.
Watch, I can post like you:
No it wasn't instant and it most certainly was not spontaneous.
In fact, what happened:
The fireball was meant to hit gandalf and explode into that swirling fireball and then consume Gandalf. Gandalf reacted at the very last moment before the flames actually touched him and his horse, and put up a defensive shield. Gandalf was almost overwhelming, in the beginning (even his comrades were scared), but he slowly gained control of the swirling flames and extinguished them.
Gandalf's ability there was shielding himself from a fireball and having very slow and cumbersome PK.
So, what now?
Originally posted by Korto Vos
This is probably the dumbest thing you've said.
Now you're mad.
Well, you really did prove my point. It's your fault so be mad at yourself.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
True, it is subjective.Though battles in the Chamber of Mazarbul, against Balrog, and at Helms Deep, Pelennor Fields, and Morannon were quite large-scale, eye-popping, and thoroughly impressive 😛
LotR is better in almost every single way over the HP films. Almost straight across the board in every single category. That's my opinion, of course.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
You started this. And you do it to a greater degree than me.
No you did. Go back and re-read it. 🙂
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Gimme a break. GTFO if you can't handle people disagreeing with you.
That's my line.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
I addressed all your points. You are too busy are either ignoring them yourself or just simply calling them "lies."
You didn't. And you lied about screen feats yet again.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
No...I don't do that.
Nuh uhhhh! dur
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Sure, if you insist. I find it rather shallow and classless of you to say that. If you can't handle disagreement, stop calling posts as "lies" and don't debate.
1. I'm not a classy person. I have quite the potty mouth and have a strong disdain for pomp and many societal norms. This is why I fart where-ever I want to.
2. Shallowness has nothing to do with what you're talking about. "Ass" or "bastard" may be better terms. Learn what "shallow" means before using it or I will tell.
3. Stop lying about on screen feats and then maybe I won't have to point out where you lie in your posts. 🙂