Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Exitar was said to be more power than an entire host of celestials COMBiNED, this proves exitar would one shot galactus.
Yeah, it was said that he is stronger than an entire host, but words dont mean much without feats to back them up...
At the moment, Exitar has no feats under his belt to indicate that this is true...
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CExitar has nothing to do with these Celestials. Nothing. That comment if it was made I can't remember off hand applied to 4th host Celestials not Celestials not even dreamt up to that point.
Exitar was said to be more power than an entire host of celestials COMBiNED, this proves exitar would one shot galactus.And these are no name celestials to booth that galactus fought
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Its a quit ridiculous to assume they are without proof
No...thats not how it works.
These are Celestials in every sense that the 616 versions are...
You guys are making the claim that because they are alt reality Celestials, that they are automatically weaker than their 616 counterparts...thus the burden of proof is on you to prove otherwise.
Doesn't matter if they are weaker or not. What if they were JOBBERED? The Voltron Celestial is powerful enough to drop Galactus with a blast but gets taken out by a sun gun? But you have to admit these are not your typical 616 Celestials.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So you have no proof then lilshogun...Just because we have never seen the 616 Celestials combining doesnt mean they cant...and that in itself isnt proof that these are weaker than those found in 616.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No...thats not how it works.These are Celestials in every sense that the 616 versions are...
You guys are making the claim that because they are alt reality Celestials, that they are automatically weaker than their 616 counterparts...thus the burden of proof is on you to prove otherwise.
Yup.
Just because a character is from an alternate reality doesn't mean we should automatically assume he or she is weaker than their 616 counterpart. For example Mar-Vell from the Cancerverse is much stronger than his 616 counterpart. Assuming alternate reality automatically = weaker is a fallacy unless there's solid evidence or proof to justify it.
If there is no evidence that an alternate reality character is weaker (or stronger) then I think its reasonable to assume they're roughly equal to their 616 counterpart more or less.
^ They're strong enough to beat Franklin Richards. Sounds 616 Celestial-level to me. /shrug
Originally posted by zopzopYou may have forgotten that the entire Council of Reeds was actively fighting those Celestials during that scene. It wasn't as if Reed was by himself and drove off every single Mad Celestial on his own.
Reed killed one and they ran. Galactus supposedly kills one and they reform and kick his ass.Reed > Galactus.
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebPractice?
I don't get how you manage to come up with insane logic in every thread
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt appeared to be drawing energy from the Sun. Which would make sense considering it's called Sol's Anvil. It also drew energy from the geothermal vent underneath Old Atlantis, the Ascension Engine in the Forever City, a Dynamo under the Blue Area of the Moon and the Negative Zone.
I thought the Sol Anvil drew some energy from the Sun and blasted the Celestials apart?At least that's what it looked like to me:
But the art's weird there so I'm open to other interpretations.
It is a last minute Reed related plot device so I guess the Celestials should be given some leeway.
Anyways, this issue was very meh, Hickman phoned it in.
The Council of Reeds built it, not Reed Richards. They used it to kill an alternate reality Beyonder and it apparently destroyed the Earth in that universe.
Originally posted by lilshogunThe combining thing was actually foreshadowed in FF #3. Where the last survivors of the Council of Reeds seal the portal and thank their lucky stars that the Mad Celestials didn't combine. And again, Sol's Anvil was used to kill a Beyonder.
Doesn't matter if they are weaker or not. What if they were JOBBERED? The Voltron Celestial is powerful enough to drop Galactus with a blast but gets taken out by a sun gun? But you have to admit these are not your typical 616 Celestials.
it doesn't matter that they are alternate reality Celestials..even 616 Celestials are varies in term of power..they are not all equally powerful..Galactus has proven to be more powerful than those 4 Celestials..that doesn't mean he's more powerful than any Celestials in the 616 universe..it's that simple..there's nothing to argue about..
Originally posted by zopzop
Reed killed one and they ran. Galactus supposedly kills one and they reform and kick his ass.Reed > Galactus.
At least aknowledge than since those guys punked Franklin Richards, Galactus still comes out as an awesome mother_hucker 😄
And you make a big deal of Reed throwing one beam, when he didn't face the fused Celestials, you're just jumping into crazy conclusions.
@Big C: What do you think of Thing doing better against a Celestial blast than Colossus ever did? Respect Ben Grimm 😈
Originally posted by Bentley
At least aknowledge than since those guys punked Franklin Richards, Galactus still comes out as an awesome mother_hucker 😄
Meh Franklin could have owned them. 😉
And you make a big deal of Reed throwing one beam, when he didn't face the fused Celestials, you're just jumping into crazy conclusions.
Hey they retreated after that one beam attack. They fused and went on to own Galactus. See where I'm going with this 😛
