Silver surfer vs thor

Started by h1a87 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos used the force block when it was necessary. Very rarely do I argue for him to use this in a versus thread and he did so twice.

Thanos can use shields and alternate blasts all the same anyways.

I argue based on how Thanos fights I don't claim someone easily wins when they have never beaten a character like you do.

This isn't cbr. This isn't you with the powerset vs. me with Thor's powers. You've been here this long and still don't understand how it works.

Correct you admit arguing what Thanos does when he doesn't really fight that way. So stop being a hypocrite. If a character was shown to fight a certain way in comics then it is a viable tactic in comics. Learn the meaning of CIS.

Originally posted by quanchi112

This isn't cbr. This isn't you with the powerset vs. me with Thor's powers. You've been here this long and still don't understand how it works.

CBR isn't that bad, is it?

Pretty sure any given site like Alvaro's, Herochat, or Comicvine does that too.. Even here on KMC, to a point..

Originally posted by h1a8
Correct you admit arguing what Thanos does when he doesn't really fight that way. So stop being a hypocrite. If a character was shown to fight a certain way in comics then it is a viable tactic in comics. Learn the meaning of CIS.
My problem wasn't the tactic my problem is your belief it easily bests Thor without question.
Originally posted by cdtm
CBR isn't that bad, is it?

Pretty sure any given site like Alvaro's, Herochat, or Comicvine does that too.. Even here on KMC, to a point..

Cbr is the worst site I have ever been to. Certain feats matter while certain feats don't. Pis excuses what the board doesn't like so there's no objectivity.

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters fight at their best [b]AS SHOWN BEFORE.
SS has trapped Mjolnir in a field, [/B]

An Amped Surfer did this. And went on to relentlessly Blast away at Thor, but still could not put Thor down.. Oh and when Thor decided to stop holding back he smashed that field anyway

Originally posted by h1a8
created black holes around enemies,

Thor can create and indestructible hurricane around him to resist that, or just teleport to another spot. And I would'nt be surprised if Mjolnir could just absorb the black hole, considering all the random energies Mjolnir has absorbed in the past. And energies of immense power.

Originally posted by h1a8
phased, hit enemies from behind with his board,

Pretty sure Mjolnir can hit beings that phase. Even if it cant its no different to Thor wrapping himself in an indestructible Hurricane and/or teleporting.

As for hitting enemies from behind with his board, that would make Surfer defenceless. And didn't Gladiator use that to his advantage and defeat Surfer?? Anyway no different to Mjolnir hitting Surfer from behind.

Originally posted by h1a8
shattered planets with a mere blast,

Thor's been stated many many times to have this level of power in his strikes.

Originally posted by h1a8
maneuvered so fast he dodged multiple beams of light, etc.

He will need to otherwise this would be a stomp. Thor shoots Omnidirectional blasts from Mjolnir.. Can send a thousand thousand hurricanes at Surfer, and Surfer can not out fly Mjolnir for long.

Merge: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t292293.html

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
An Amped Surfer did this. And went on to relentlessly Blast away at Thor, but still could not put Thor down.. Oh and when Thor decided to stop holding back he smashed that field anyway
I don't recall SS blasting Thor with planet shattering blasts. Remember this is a forum fight.

Thor can create and indestructible hurricane around him to resist that, or just teleport to another spot. And I would'nt be surprised if Mjolnir could just absorb the black hole, considering all the random energies Mjolnir has absorbed in the past. And energies of immense power.

Thor can't create indestructible hurricanes around him. And he can't create any hurricane around him before SS attacks him. And Thor's hurricanes can't defend against radiation attacks or gravity attacks. The black hole will instantly destroy Thor the moment it touches him. Thor won't get the chance to absorb it, especially if he throws the hammer.

Pretty sure Mjolnir can hit beings that phase. Even if it cant its no different to Thor wrapping himself in an indestructible Hurricane and/or teleporting.

Thor can't do any of these things faster than SS. Hell it takes Thor seconds to do anything exotic, including teleporting.

As for hitting enemies from behind with his board, that would make Surfer defenceless. And didn't Gladiator use that to his advantage and defeat Surfer?? Anyway no different to Mjolnir hitting Surfer from behind.

Surfer can phase and create shields. So he wouldn't be defenseless. Thor would be out of there if he decides to throw the hammer.

Thor's been stated many many times to have this level of power in his strikes.

Unless a character shows the level of power then it is speculation.

He will need to otherwise this would be a stomp. Thor shoots Omnidirectional blasts from Mjolnir.. Can send a thousand thousand hurricanes at Surfer, and Surfer can not out fly Mjolnir for long.

Thor's omnidirectional blasts aren't really omnidirectional. There is a lot of space between the so called omnidirectional blasts that Thor has emitted before. Also SS can phase or use a shield to block it. Thor can't send out a thousand hurricanes at Surfer before Surfer attacks him. Remember SS is much faster. Plus I doubt that hurricanes would do anything to SS.

@ ha18 thor did create an indestructible shield of a 1000 winds not even hulk could break it... and another shield once but forgot the comic , he absorbed some energy and created an indestructible shield around some facilty...

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall SS blasting Thor with planet shattering blasts. Remember this is a forum fight. Thor can't create indestructible hurricanes around him. And he can't create any hurricane around him before SS attacks him. And Thor's hurricanes can't defend against radiation attacks or gravity attacks. The black hole will instantly destroy Thor the moment it touches him. Thor won't get the chance to absorb it, especially if he throws the hammer. Thor can't do any of these things faster than SS. Hell it takes Thor seconds to do anything exotic, including teleporting. Surfer can phase and create shields. So he wouldn't be defenseless. Thor would be out of there if he decides to throw the hammer. Unless a character shows the level of power then it is speculation. Thor's omnidirectional blasts aren't really omnidirectional. There is a lot of space between the so called omnidirectional blasts that Thor has emitted before. Also SS can phase or use a shield to block it. Thor can't send out a thousand hurricanes at Surfer before Surfer attacks him. Remember SS is much faster. Plus I doubt that hurricanes would do anything to SS.

facepalm

I don't recall Thor blasting SS with planet destroying power or striking him with planetary force.

Yes, Thor can make indestructible hurricanes around him.

Yes, Thor can summon winds instantly.

Thor's whirlwinds have shielded from Grandmaster's blast which would have destroyed 1/5 of the universe, so yeah, they can shield Thor from anything Surfer can throw at him.

Based on what Thor has endured, a black hole from Surfer isn't killing him instantly.

Thor can absorb vast amounts of energy instantly. Mjolnir would return if thrown, even if trapped by a black hole.

Prove Surfer is too fast for Thor to react to when Thor has done exactly that every single time they've battled.

Surfer can't do his exotic shit any measureable time faster than Thor can do his. Quit making shit up.

Thor can attack phased beings and make shields, too.

SS being much faster has never helped him beat Thor before and he's used his speed in battle.

Thor's effected Skyfather and abstract beings with his hurricanes; they're going to effect Silver Surfer.

My god, h1, your post shows a staggering level of ignorance of both the characters involved and is based on...hell if I know. You're not even debating CIS off Surfer; you're debating some fantasy character against a character you've shown an explicit level of ignorance over time and time again.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
facepalm

I don't recall Thor blasting SS with planet destroying power or striking him with planetary force.

Yes, Thor can make indestructible hurricanes around him.

Yes, Thor can summon winds instantly.

Thor's whirlwinds have shielded from Grandmaster's blast which would have destroyed 1/5 of the universe, so yeah, they can shield Thor from anything Surfer can throw at him.

Based on what Thor has endured, a black hole from Surfer isn't killing him instantly.

Thor can absorb vast amounts of energy instantly. Mjolnir would return if thrown, even if trapped by a black hole.

Prove Surfer is too fast for Thor to react to when Thor has done exactly that every single time they've battled.

Surfer can't do his exotic shit any measureable time faster than Thor can do his. Quit making shit up.

Thor can attack phased beings and make shields, too.

SS being much faster has never helped him beat Thor before and he's used his speed in battle.

Thor's effected Skyfather and abstract beings with his hurricanes; they're going to effect Silver Surfer.

My god, h1, your post shows a staggering level of ignorance of both the characters involved and is based on...hell if I know. You're not even debating CIS off Surfer; you're debating some fantasy character against a character you've shown an explicit level of ignorance over time and time again.

Excellent post!

👆

Oh...and Thor wins!

🙂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Excellent post!

👆

Oh...and Thor wins!

🙂

What kind of a split out of ten ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What kind of a split out of ten ?

Honestly, at average power levels/normal mindset for both characters, Thor 6-7/10...

But if both are going all out, Thor 10/10; Thor appears to be able to dial it up to a higher level than Surfer can when its crunch time...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Honestly, at average power levels/normal mindset for both characters, Thor 6-7/10...

But if both are going all out, Thor 10/10; Thor appears to be able to dial it up to a higher level than Surfer can when its crunch time...

10/10 means Surfer doesn't have a chance. If that were true Thor would have had an advantage in their recent fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
10/10 means Surfer doesn't have a chance. If that were true Thor would have had an advantage in their recent fight.

I dont believe Thor was going all out...

An all out Thor (in my honest opinion) is one who is in True Warriors Madness (x10 strength)...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
But if both are going all out, Thor 10/10; Thor appears to be able to dial it up to a higher level than Surfer can when its crunch time...

You seriously think at peak showings surfer doesn't stand any kind of a chance? Sigh.

Even if you went off only peak showings there is no way it is a curb stomp in anyone's favor.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I dont believe Thor was going all out...

An all out Thor (in my honest opinion) is one who is in True Warriors Madness (x10 strength)...

Hyperbole. He's never ever shown anything like this but if you want to base your opinion off one statement in a comic to base your entire opinion on a pretty good matchup be my guest.

Let's not go too far here. I agree that Thor is much more awesome than Surfer but the eunuch's reputation isn't -entirely- undeserved.

Originally posted by rotiart
You seriously think at peak showings surfer doesn't stand any kind of a chance? Sigh.

Even if you went off only peak showings there is no way it is a curb stomp in anyone's favor.

Using peak showings only, Surfer has no prayer...

Peak Thor has better damage soak, better power output, and greater striking power...

Peak Surfer has tremendous matter/energy manipulation, but unless they fight near the Big Crunch energies, thats not going to help him in this fight...

Peak Thor has directly damaged Celestial Armor sans weakness exploitation; Surfer gets one-shotted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hyperbole. He's never ever shown anything like this but if you want to base your opinion off one statement in a comic to base your entire opinion on a pretty good matchup be my guest.

I do think they'd have a great fight; under normal circumstances, Surfer would give Thor a hard fight...

But under extreme conditions, both dialing it up as high as they can, Thor demostrates a clear (very significant) superiority to The Silver Surfer...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I do think they'd have a great fight; under normal circumstances, Surfer would give Thor a hard fight...

But under extreme conditions, both dialing it up as high as they can, Thor demostrates a clear (very significant) superiority to The Silver Surfer...

I don't think so. Thor might be more powerful but Surfer is more durable and is fully capable of beating Thor.

Peak Thor is a bonafide Low Trans Tier character...IMHO.