Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt has to bother you to hear another poster agree with me. The funny part is Tenebrous and Aegis actually tried to destroy the Surfer and he resisted their blasts and survived the crunch feat to which even Galactus marveled at. That's far more impressive than Celestials not taking Thor seriously and letting him sob while he attacks them.
I'm too tired to go *** for tat with pointless retorts. PM me if you want a serious discussions.
Wonders? Lol. Apparently you didn't grasp my meaning. Let me try a little bit harder to spell it out for you.
The celestials knew he was a non threat and treated him as such.
You assume all celestials that blast have attacks that are the same
I assume they aren't.
Why
Because on panel the narrator and not thor tells us Thors best effects meant absolutely nothing to them.
Inconsequential.
The celestials actively fought against Odin
They barely half assed it when it came to even care about Thor.
That blast you compare that hit Thor vs the destroyer could just as easily have been the difference between a punch and a fly swat.
And you have no way of proving the blasts were similar because the narration doesn't say so. Yes it can be inferred. But the unimind was disbanded. Gosh a creation of the celestials was easily dealt with... I wonder..
And Odin fought with and cut other celestials whereas the best feat of Thor was to attack the ground underneath the celestials to get them to fall...
Originally posted by quanchi112
It has to bother you to hear another poster agree with me. The funny part is Tenebrous and Aegis actually tried to destroy the Surfer and he resisted their blasts and survived the crunch feat to which even Galactus marveled at. That's far more impressive than Celestials not taking Thor seriously and letting him sob while he attacks them.
Blah. You know I don't like to agree with you.
But I can't help it when the occasion occurs where you appear to be right.
Although back to point. I still think Thor edges surfer in a fight.
Originally posted by rotiartThat's what makes it all the more blatant. You can't stand siding with me as do many others so when it's done they couldn't argue how right I was.
Blah. You know I don't like to agree with you.
But I can't help it when the occasion occurs where you appear to be right.Although back to point. I still think Thor edges surfer in a fight.
I see this as very close but can't argue if someone gives either character a slight edge. This is a lot closer than blood and thunder but people seem to want to let that influence their minds a little bit too much.
Attacks by a character in comics aren't always equal. For example when Glads punches a character it is not with the same planet shattering force that he has shown before. The same goes for all of Surfer's attacks, Superman's attacks, etc.
Since we know that Destroyer amped with Odin and others >>>>>Thor then either
1. The feat was PIS
2. The attack wasn't as potent as it was to the Destroyer.
Otherwise we must accept that Thor>>>>>>>>amped Destroyer>>>Odin himself. Should we accept this?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It has to bother you to hear another poster agree with me. The funny part is Tenebrous and Aegis actually tried to destroy the Surfer and he resisted their blasts and survived the crunch feat to which even Galactus marveled at. That's far more impressive than Celestials not taking Thor seriously and letting him sob while he attacks them.
Hate to say it but -gulp- I'd have to concur. If only for the slightest difference in that he actively engaged them in "combat" and actually managed to defeat them. Thor's efforts, while very impressive, were ultimately futile.
Having said that, I'd rather that Marvel just avoided this stupidity altogether because as someone pointed out earlier, its all really pis in the grand scheme of things.
Originally posted by h1a8
Unless a character shows the level of power then it is speculation.
Urmm No. When the narrator describes time and time again the intensity of Thor's strikes, then that should be enough proof of the intensity of his strikes.
Or what you're saying anyone who doesn't actually go round destroying planets is not capable of it?? So I guess Superman isn't capable of destroying a planet then??
Speculation would be me saying Thor Struck the Hulk so hard he went flying into space, so that must be a planet shattering blast.
Narrator statements on the intensity of Thor's strikes (especially time and time again) should be taken as canon proof, and at the very least be taken seriously, but certainly should not be degraded down to pure speculation.
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't recall SS blasting Thor with planet shattering blasts. Remember this is a forum fight.
Ah now you see, this is pure speculation. How can you speculate like that on the intensity of the blasts an Amped Surfer was dishing out relentlessly at Thor??!
You have no idea how powerful those blasts were. But considering Surfer was going all out to stop Thor, AND considering the fact that he was Magically Amped by Loki himself, its safe to say it was a more powerful blast than what Surfer is usually capable of.