Hey wuts up X?
Meh, that incident doesn't really matter,
the PF has been handled by equally embarrassing levels of power.
Originally posted by GalacticStormWe now know that all of Wandas power in House of M wasnt her own, but came from a mysteriously named "life force entity" The final two issues of this limited series will reveal exactly who this life force entity is. Given that the Phoenix Force is the primal life force of reality and this title is a lead into the Phoenix Force event Avengers Vs X-men, if the source of Wandas power really is revealed to be the Phoenix Force then you are well and truly finished here [/B]
But you can fool yourself all you want.
That aside,
... this isn't "what we now know" ... this is what's been changed. (retcon)
Already this has become a Post-Hom Wanda,
because this has Wanda acquiring her power through completely
different means in comparison with the original HOM story.
And Doom being more powerful than Dr Strange in magic? 😂
Or Doom involved in Wandas' acquisition of her HOM power? 🤨
Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix is not the life force of reality, Eternity/infinity is the life-force of reality.But you can fool yourself all you want.
That aside,
... this isn't "what we now know" ... this is what's been changed. (retcon)
Already this has become a Post-Hom Wanda,
because this has Wanda acquiring her power through completely
different means in comparison with the original HOM story.And Doom being more powerful than Dr Strange in magic? 😂
Or Doom involved in Wandas' acquisition of her HOM power? 🤨
How's it going?
Wanda stated that Doom was more adept at necromancy or something then Strange IIRC. It Has something to do with Wanda being a nexus being there was a story a while back about it although now it looks like they're going to retcon iit to the PF since Wanda is tied to Hope who is tied to the PF. I still think
Hope is something else though.
Although I have a feeling Thor is going to do well against it.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
How's it going?Wanda stated that Doom was more adept at necromancy or
something then Strange IIRC. It Has something to do with Wanda
being a nexus being there was a story a while back about it
although now it looks like they're going to retcon iit to the PF since
Wanda is tied to Hope who is tied to the PF. I still think
Hope is something else though.
I haven't read this arc so I can't comment much,
I'm only seeing what's in those scans.
She said he was more powerful than herself and Strange in Magic,
and then she said Doom is more inclined to play with the dark arts.
But right off the back in this story Door helped Wanda acquire her power,
and that has absolutely nothing to do with the original HOM arc.
Then this so-called "life force" issue? 😐
Wanda's power was always a self inherent acquisition.
Due to her being the 616 "nexus being" she had potential connection to all mystical energy across the realities.
I have a limited arc too from the mid 90's where she temporarily taps this power,
and she ends up defeating a Multiversal power.
I'll post the scans in a bit.
That aside, it was her madness that completely unlocked her dormant potential.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix is not the life force of reality, Eternity/infinity is the life-force of reality.But you can fool yourself all you want.
That aside,
... this isn't "what we now know" ... this is what's been changed. (retcon)
Already this has become a Post-Hom Wanda,
because this has Wanda acquiring her power through completely
different means in comparison with the original HOM story.And Doom being more powerful than Dr Strange in magic? 😂
Or Doom involved in Wandas' acquisition of her HOM power? 🤨
Eternity was retconned from being the life force of reality a long time ago. The past two decades especially he has been positioned as the embodiment of all that lies along the chronal axis, hence the creation of Infinity to be his spatial counterpart back in the 1990's in the Quasar series.
All New Official Handbook 2006-
As for Wanda she went from being the 2nd most powerful Avengers member after Thor, to becoming one of the most powerful forces in existence with no explanation. We finally get that explanation, it was down to life force entity in this series that is a lead into the Phoenix Force event which explains Wandas connection to the Phoenix Force 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Wanda's power was always a self inherent acquisition.
Due to her being the 616 "nexus being" she had potential connection to all mystical energy across the realities.I have a limited arc too from the mid 90's where she temporarily taps this power,
and she ends up defeating a Multiversal power.I'll post the scans in a bit.
That aside, it was her madness that completely unlocked her dormant potential.
When Wanda was revealed to be a nexus being she was said to have the potential for great power and an ability be a conduit for great power across reality.
This is not a retcon, all its stating is that the power that fueled House of M was the life force entity. The scans from the avengers crusade even refer to how accessing the life force was possible because wanda is a nexus being 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Eternity was retconned from being the life force of reality a long time ago. The past two decades especially he has been positioned as the embodiment of all that lies along the chronal axis, hence the creation of Infinity to be his spatial counterpart back in the 1990's in the Quasar series.All New Official Handbook 2006-
in this series that is a lead into the Phoenix Force event which explains Wandas connection to the Phoenix Force [/B]
As for Wanda she went from being the 2nd most powerful Avengers member after Thor, to becoming one of the most powerful forces in existence with no explanation. We finally get that explanation, it was down to [B]life force entity
Eternity/infinity not only embody everything that exists across Space-Time.
They ARE Space-Time.
And you can continue to pump fallacies connecting the PF to Wanda's HOM power,
but it's all false.
Eternity/Infinity are the life-force of Reality.
The PF is just another Concept which compliments a working Universe.
Eternity/Infinity-Death/Oblivion are the cornerstones of Reality.
Galactus balances that union.
Simple.
Lord Chaos/Master Order-Inbetweener
The Phoenix Force (it's power literally derives from the psyche of living beings)
Love/Hate
The children of Eternity
Their purpose arises once the Universe is up and running via the cornerstones.
Simple.
Originally posted by GalacticStormWhen Wanda was revealed to be a nexus being she was said to
have the potential for great power and an ability be a conduit for
great power across reality.
This is not a retcon, all its stating is that the power that fueled
House of M was the life force entity. The scans from the avengers
crusade even refer to how accessing the life force was possible because wanda is a nexus being
This is all false so I'm not gonna entertain 5-10 more pages contradicting fantasy. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Again, you're not proving anything.Eternity/infinity not only embody everything that exists across Space-Time.
They ARE Space-Time.
And you can continue to pump fallacies connecting the PF to Wanda's HOM power,
but it's all false.Eternity/Infinity are the life-force of Reality.
The PF is just another Concept which compliments a working Universe.
Eternity/Infinity-Death/Oblivion are the cornerstones of Reality.
Galactus balances that union.
Simple.
Lord Chaos/Master Order-Inbetweener
The Phoenix Force (it's power literally derives from the psyche of living beings)
Love/Hate
The children of EternityTheir purpose arises once the Universe is up and running via the cornerstones.
Simple.
I dont need to go into an endless debate regarding what the Phoenix Force is. Eternitys handbook states that hes the embodiment of the chronal axis. Phoenix Forces states its the prime universal force of life. One is the actual creation energy that fuels reality, the other is the embodiment of the ensuing reality following the creation event. I dont wanna be swamped with a load of early 90's and pre 90's scans saying something different. They would be irrelevant. This is the status quo. Deal.
Your strategy is both dumb and transparent. When they reveal what the life force entity is, if it is the Phoenix Force what are you going to say then? 🙄
Youve lost Emmie.
Grow up 👆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Your strategy is both dumb and transparent.Youve lost Emmie.
Grow up
Don't you get sick of yourself.
Damn, I mean good lord,
how many action figures you tortured
to mold that intransigent pompous delusional complex?
Meh, actually my little thing, proceed with what makes you happy.
I've taken the wrong approach, I'm gonna help ya friend,
we're all here for ya, we care. It's ok.
Forgive me for not realizing you're just a child out there in his room who's hurting,
and it's terrible of me to exploit that to shine in this forum.
If you want you can PM me and we can talk, I took a psychology class in college,
I still remember certain helpful points.
Peace and love friend. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
durznuts ... Ahh just shut up already.Don't you get sick of yourself.
Damn, I mean good lord,
how many action figures you tortured
to mold that intransigent pompous delusional complex?Meh, actually my little thing, proceed with what makes you happy.
I've taken the wrong approach, I'm gonna help ya friend,
we're all here for ya, we care. It's ok.
Forgive me for not realizing you're just a child out there in his room who's hurting,
and it's terrible of me to exploit that to shine in this forum.If you want you can PM me and we can talk, I took a psychology class in college,
I still remember certain helpful points.Peace and love friend. 🙂
Happy Holidays 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Seems like Sinister thinks Hope is a fragment of the Phoenix Force-Maybe one of its missing fragments. Maybe the story will see Hope reunite with the rest of the Force
I think she's more then that. I think her birth was immaculate. The X- Men have been keeping the fact that Hope can tap into the PF from her. Everyone is too scared to tell her. So that's why Sinister said that. Hope is the ultimate mutation she can use everyone's powers at their utmost potential that includes both Wanda and Jean. She's like the bastard child of both of them. I hope Bishop turns out to be right and I hope Emma regrets not smothering her with a pillow.
Also the Thor tie- in is meant to be cosmic so either he's facing Legion or he's going to try and slow down the PF.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I think she's more then that. I think her birth was immaculate. The X- Men have been keeping the fact that Hope can tap into the PF from her. Everyone is too scared to tell her. So that's why Sinister said that. Hope is the ultimate mutation she can use everyone's powers at their utmost potential that includes both Wanda and Jean. She's like the bastard child of both of them. I hope Bishop turns out to be right and I hope Emma regrets not smothering her with a pillow.Also the Thor tie- in is meant to be cosmic so either he's facing Legion or he's going to try and slow down the PF.
It doesnt include the Phoenix Force. As the sum of all life it cant include the Phoenix Force. She has on panel already been called a child of the Phoenix Force and as Sinister suggests here on panel shes actually just a fragment of the Phoenix Force. Given the Forces shattered status and Jean being on a mission to recover her missing pieces it all fits in that hopes one of them.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
It doesnt include the Phoenix Force. As the sum of all life it cant include the Phoenix Force. She has on panel already been called a child of the Phoenix Force and as Sinister suggests here on panel shes actually just a fragment of the Phoenix Force. Given the Forces shattered status and Jean being on a mission to recover her missing pieces it all fits in that hopes one of them.
I disagree with the Fragment part. Sinisters comment goes back to Kitty and Scott's conversation in Gen Hope which Kieron Gillen wrote. also Hope has it in its entirety. remember she yanked it out of Rachel and the Cuckoos? The PF from the event might be from the cancer verse.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I disagree with the Fragment part. Sinisters comment goes back to Kitty and Scott's conversation in Gen Hope which Kieron Gillen wrote. also Hope has it in its entirety. remember she yanked it out of Rachel and the Cuckoos? The PF from the event might be from the cancer verse.
She cant have it in its entirety right now because the whole Avengers Vs X-men event is about the Phoenix Force returning to Earth so that point is conclusively incorrect.
And youre making assumptions. Hope never yanked it back. Where was that stated or conclusively shown. Rachel even said at the time her fragment was taken "No mom not now".
For all we know that was the 1st step to the Phoenix Force reclaiming its missing parts and now its coming to Earth to continue that process.
Sinister states plain as day that her nature is a missing part of nurture and that the word that describes her nurture is Phoenix. It does not get much clearer than that.
What being was shattered and is looking for its missing pieces?
Has Phoenix not manifested and called Hope its child?
My predictions are that the life force entity is the Phoenix Force, kind of obvious from the fact that Avengers: CC is a lead into AvsX a Phoenix event, the Phoenix is the life force of reality and the fact that Doom mentions others have tried to control this entity in the past, failed and caused great destruction like Wanda.
