Top Tier/Herald Class: Who is the #1 p4p?

Originally posted by carver9
There isn't a team of high Heralds that exist in Marvel minus the Annihilators.

Hulk has walked through high Heralds though. He outright stomped Genis. He destroyed Gladiator, Thor was on the other end of the table when it was stated that the entire Avenger line up doesn't stand a chance against Hulk. He ran through Herc...withstood an assault from an amped Strange and then beat the hell out of him. Overpowered an amped Onslaught that was at his physical peak of holding back earth defense. Current Hulk is much more than the Hulk that performed these fts and as stated numerous of Times, no force on Earth stands a chance against him. People thinking twice of facing him is proof of his power.

So, Hulk has never steamrolled a team of High Heralds on a consistent basis with any semblance of ease.

Gotcha.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, Hulk has never steamrolled a team of High Heralds on a consistent basis with any semblance of ease.

Gotcha.

It depends on how you look at it. Writers think the XMen is a elite team...they also think of the avengers as a elite team. From our eyes, no, but Hulk has walked through teams on a consistent basis.

Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how you look at it. Writers think the XMen is a elite team...they also think of the avengers as a elite team.

Originally posted by carver9
So what tier is Doomsday?

Doomsday has the speed to prevent from being thrown or uppercutted into space before he defeats the high herald. That is why Flash is at least herald level too.

Originally posted by "Id"

Originally posted by carver9
There isn't a team of high Heralds that exist in Marvel minus the Annihilators.

Hulk has walked through high Heralds though. He outright stomped Genis. He destroyed Gladiator, Thor was on the other end of the table when it was stated that the entire Avenger line up doesn't stand a chance against Hulk. He ran through Herc...withstood an assault from an amped Strange and then beat the hell out of him. Overpowered an amped Onslaught that was at his physical peak of holding back earth defense. Current Hulk is much more than the Hulk that performed these fts and as stated numerous of Times, no force on Earth stands a chance against him. People thinking twice of facing him is proof of his power.

Originally posted by h1a8
Doomsday has the speed to prevent from being thrown or uppercutted into space before he defeats the high herald. That is why Flash is at least herald level too.

Lol...you are not making sense. As for Hulk...he was delivering punches that earth heroes was incapable of walking through. The shockwaves was forcing everyone back and creating planetary shockwaves.

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Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how you look at it. Writers think the XMen is a elite team...they also think of the avengers as a elite team. From our eyes, no, but Hulk has walked through teams on a consistent basis.

Originally posted by King Kandy
The most powerful heroes do not even live on Earth. Do you think Hulk could take on a team like that which went against PG Thor, (Warlock, Strange, Surfer, Infinity Watch)? Could he deal with the annihilators? How about the lineup of heralds that did battle with Tyrant; could Hulk deal with them? Feats of that caliber might qualify him for trans.

I know they don't live on Earth and people like Doomsday or Adam can't beat the Annihilators or even stand a chance against them. The Worthys took on a group of Heralds that wouldn't stand a prayer against WBH. Tyrant is above trans tier. Hulk has fts that puts him in or above trans.

Originally posted by King Kandy
lol, I am sorry... beating the X-Men is nothing like beating a team of high heralds regardless of how "elite" they are... if he faced down mutants like say, Vulcan, Magneto and Phoenix, then maybe you would have a point, as is most line ups of the X-men are not close to the qualifier I am using here... I mean he really needs to trounce the upper echelons of Marvel not some mid tiers.

You missed my point.

Originally posted by carver9
I know they don't live on Earth and people like Doomsday or Adam can't beat the Annihilators or even stand a chance against them. The Worthys took on a group of Heralds that wouldn't stand a prayer against WBH. Tyrant is above trans tier. Hulk has fts that puts him in or above trans.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well if Doomsday and Adam can't put in at least admirable showings against lineups like the Annihilators, then their trans status may be in doubt. I think characters like Amazo and Classic Strange could battle the Annihilators.

I think they can as well and by the way, Classic Strange has had hard Times fighting Hulk and have a lost against him as well. Amazo isn't that great to me unless you are basing things off of his power level instead of his showings.

Originally posted by carver9
I think they can as well and by the way, Classic Strange has had hard Times fighting Hulk and have a lost against him as well. Amazo isn't that great to me unless you are basing things off of his power level instead of his showings.

Originally posted by King Kandy
There are way more cases of Strange easily dismissing Hulk than the reverse. The Hulk would definitely fall against the Annihilators. Don't you agree?

Yes since I think it takes a high end skyfather to stop a team of that caliber.

Originally posted by King Kandy
There are way more cases of Strange easily dismissing Hulk than the reverse. The Hulk would definitely fall against the Annihilators. Don't you agree?

Strange's durability, strength, constitution, and speed levels leads me to think that the Annihilator's would roast him if they were out to kill him. Just my opinion though.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes since I think it takes a high end skyfather to stop a team of that caliber.

Originally posted by Stoic
Strange's durability, strength, constitution, and speed levels leads me to think that the Annihilator's would roast him if they were out to kill him. Just my opinion though.

If Doc was out to kill he would drain BRB. After that the team would be in serious trouble. No way the Annihilators would roast him in this situation.

Originally posted by Sundipped
If Doc was out to kill he would drain BRB. After that the team would be in serious trouble. No way the Annihilators would roast him in this situation.

Strange has typical human reaction speeds, Gladiator is so far above human that it's unreal. Do you think that you may be selling this team short with everything considered?

wonder woman!!!

Originally posted by psycho gundam
since loeb isn't on those titles, it's up to iron man to prevent a total mutant stompage.

I am talking Overeem vs Lesnar type of dominance.