Originally posted by h1a8
It's only a reality in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story. But in other cases the writer makes known of what Character A can really do if he/she wanted.Comics ARE built off of science and logic (or at least it tries to be at times), otherwise the suspension of disbelief fails. It's just that the science isn't always correct or discovered yet (like magic). Everyone knows how strong a character is based off the things they have lift, pulled, hit, etc... Even when using comparisons to other characters the root is still which natural feats were done at the root. Why do you think Superman is slightly stronger or equal to Thor when they have never fought or engaged in strength? Is it because of the natural lifting, pulling,... feats they have that compare? Isn't that based off science or logic?
Is it reasonable for a character to view bullets as frozen in time yet gets hits, while alert, to an attack moving at a small fraction of a bullets speed? Is it because of the character's ability that he got hit or is it because the writer chose to ignore their ability to falsely create adversity? The writer knows the truth and yet chooses what is best for the comic company, even if that means to go against logic at time.
This is the spirit of why we have the rule "Character's fight at their best ability [B]AS SHOWN BEFORE
".
There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story.IMO, it is speed that prevents Thor from being Trans level or even Skyfather level. Without speed and him using his powers at their utmost he is still only a herald level being. [/B]
GTFOH, you are so full of sh** you make are Senators look like geniuses, you misuse feats when it suites you, your ignorance of comics is horrid, you are troll nothing more!!
Originally posted by Mindset
He's a pacifist and Thor is a warrior.
Thor is definitely more violent but I don't see know that it's enough evidence to say he conclusively holds back less than Surfer. He definitely makes angry faces more often I'll give you that.
Just to be clear, are you saying that Surfer holds back more power or more in relation to the power they have available?
Originally posted by rotiart
Dude you come with retarded answers all day long.
When it works in your favor it's right.
When it doesn't it's wrong.I take it back, it's not your statements that are retarded.
I like how you were too incompetent to think of an actual response to him, and took to backing out with boastful insults. 🙂
Originally posted by janus77I'm not trying to be a jerk. But, seriously, I haven't seen the speed feats used in combat.
Surfer's stronger, overall more powerful too. And much much much much faster.
And, as I stated before, Thor has been shown to have combat-based speed feats as well as narrative and other character statements supporting his speed as well.
Thanks.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I'm not trying to be a jerk. But, seriously, I haven't seen the speed feats used in combat.
Are there any examples? Because I have the books and can just look it up. No scans needed.
I really don't remember Surfer using speed for anything but travel. I have seen him cruise through on his board, blasting people at his crazy speeds. But, never h2h.
If I'm wrong, please show me. I am a Surfer fan anyway.
I can believe he has the potential. I just never saw it.And, as I stated before, Thor has been shown to have combat-based speed feats as well as narrative and other character statements supporting his speed as well.
Thanks.
Surfer is a blaster and not much of a h2h fighter. At his best he zooms around like a fly blasting up some sh!t.
This makes him more dangerous. It is easy to hit a 60mph fastball coming at you from 50 feet away but it is even harder to hit a fly buzzing around you at 5mph. Now imagine Surfer buzzing around at light speeds and beyond.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I'm not trying to be a jerk. But, seriously, I haven't seen the speed feats used in combat.
Are there any examples? Because I have the books and can just look it up. No scans needed.
I really don't remember Surfer using speed for anything but travel. I have seen him cruise through on his board, blasting people at his crazy speeds. But, never h2h.
If I'm wrong, please show me. I am a Surfer fan anyway.
I can believe he has the potential. I just never saw it.And, as I stated before, Thor has been shown to have combat-based speed feats as well as narrative and other character statements supporting his speed as well.
Thanks.
Surfer doesnt fight strictly h2h most times though.He is a blaster and thus his superspeed displays mostly involve blasting and manoeuvring at superspeed as well as reacting,perceiving things,processing, and calculating things at superspeed. This is all in battle and so is extremely valid for combat situations. Thors combat based speed feats are really not on Surfers level at all.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Nope, the gap in strength certainly isnt as much as the gap in speed.
Eh, I doubt the gap in speed would be portrayed as larger than the gap in strength. And not for a lack of use. So I'll stick by first point.
The one time it really ever provided an advantage was in their original fight. And we know what the implications of that one were. vin