Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
What is the fact? Your opinion? I don't think so.
No, it's called Occam's Razor, combined with the fundamental principle that the best theory is the one that best fits with the facts. Really, I'm not making this idea up.
And canonical contradictions are nothing new in case of Star Wars mythos. My point is that you shouldn't rely upon hyperboles too much.
So when wikipedia lists Everest as the tallest land mountain in the world, it's obviously hyperbole. Because blatant statements as to somebody being the most powerful are obviously "hyperbole". And this "hyperbole" was used in the same manner by various different authors in various different sources.
Yet obviously, "unleashed the full power of the dark side" is completely literal.
Again, their is no definite answer for this case. Some sources promote Luke as the greatest swordsman in the whole Star Wars mythos.
No, none actually confirm this. But various, canon, some OOU sources confirm Sidious to be the "most powerful sith who ever lived". Fact. Canon.
IMO, Kas'im was the most skilled swordsman in his time and can be considered as among the most skilled in the whole mythos (Logical deduction on the basis of canonical information at hand.)
Point being that the statement involving Kas'im was clearly not referring to, say, Jedi that lived a thousand years after him.
Marketing hypes, unless proven.
Oh, many Jeeps are indeed the most decorated in their class ever. Of course, using your definition of "ever", this would be incorrect, as it would mean "the most decorated jeep past, present and future". By the second definition (read: of the rest of the world), it would simply mean up until the PoV of the narrator. Which in this case is an advertiser with no knowledge of the future.
Because Vitiate' actions on Nathema would have alienated his followers, if openly known. And the very reason that some members of the Dark Counil (during time of Revan) were plotting against Vitiate was what he did on Nathema.
...that's my entire point. Vitiate did not tell Nyriss of his actions, and therefore the fact that she was on the Dark Council and told secrets from the Emperor is, once again, an irrelevant fact on your part.
Revan also investigated Nathema and had access to datacron of son of Dramath, who was buried on Rekkiad.
It is not irrelevant. Revan' findings support Nyriss' story on rise of Vitiate to power on Nathema. Vitiate killed Lord Dramath in the process.
And unimportant planet is not a valid argument, genius.
I am not comparing Dramath with any other individual. I am talking about validity of Nyriss' story.
Ah, so a single portion of the story being correct must mean that the entire story is. Because Achilles possibly did exist, that must have meant that he was dipped in a magical river in the underworld.
Yeah right. 🙄
She investigated Nathema, genius.
So then what exactly was the relevance to mentioning that Nyriss was given information by the Emperor that none others receive, being on the Dark Council? If that information does not include information on Nathema, which it does not, then you just blurted out an irrelevant point.
Then don't openly dismiss it, genius. Try to keep an open mind.
Nowhere do I openly dismiss it. You're the one who regarded it as fact. Next.
You lost before you even began.
I was attempting to sarcastically convey my point, but clearly such means are ineffective with you. Let's examine your statement:
Also, Vitiate has demonstrated plenty of mind dominating feats during KoTOR period.
So all you state here is that he has demonstrated "plenty of mind dominating feats during KoTOR period". At no point do you explain what they are and how they are above Palpatine's.
So let me actually do your own work for you. Vitiate dominated the minds of pre KOTOR Revan and Malak without stirring from his chair. Impressive, probably the most impressive mind-control feat in the mythos. Although, IIRC, Palpatine almost succeeded in dominating Marek a similar way, had it not been for Kota. Yet nothing indicates that Vitiate could mind dominate Palpatine, who turned an entire planet into a barren, dark side infested planet, clouded the minds of ten thousand Jedi and contained such an influence on the minds of the imperial fleet, the fleet at Endor collapsed and went crazy after he died.
Sidious was still in fighting condition. My point is that don't use 'moment of surprise' as an argument.
Sure I can. Sidious was dying as of Empire's End.
Additionally, Vitiate also launched lightning bolts at Revan, who batted one back at him, and it hit him in the chest. Apparently, he didn't have the reflexes to dodge his own attack.
I am not backtracking from anything. Immortality is not a joke; it reflects on Vitiate' power in the grand picture. You need a brain to comprehend this.
Feel free to elaborate on how exactly it "reflects on Vitiate's power in the grand picture". Like, you know, how powerful it will make him compared to Palpatine. Because
Spoiler:
Scourge also became immortal at the end of the novel; does this make him stronger than Palpatine?
I don't care about where Drew got this inspiration from. You need to differentiate between opinion of a character about himself and that of the author about a character.
My god, once again, your ability to read into subtle hints is hilariously bad. Sidious says to Yoda:
Your arrogance blinds you Master Yoda. Now you will experience the full power of the dark side.
So Sidious can do the obviously very literal, and very quantifiable "full power of the dark side" power.
You are being exposed. Don't cry, please. [/B]
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