So Carv, you lowball superman to prove that he hasn't unlimited potential and to disregard his infinite weight feat but on the other hand you take the WBH feat for granted and assume he reches always his max potential.
Superman can match Hulks best with his best, even surpass it, based on feats. Your only line of defense against this fact, is lowballing, aus usual 🙂.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeSo its lowballing when someone claims that superman is FAR from having infinite strength? Yet you disregard the FACT that people like prime, shaggyman, kurse and all-star superman are ALL stronger than superman. Superman is equal to the likes of CM and a little stronger than Wonder Woman, ALL this made CLEAR by the writers of superman, DCs OFFICIAL database and answered by writers being ask by fans. Those are the things you OVERLOOK to try and make superman shine. How in the hell can superman have infinite strength when ALL the writers agree that hes peers with thor, CM, ultraman and a little stronger than WW?? yet NONE OF THEM possess unlimited strength. Answer this question... Who is stronger, your superman or Superman prime?
So Carv, you lowball superman to prove that he hasn't unlimited potential and to disregard his infinite weight feat but on the other hand you take the WBH feat for granted and assume he reches always his max potential.Superman can match Hulks best with his best, even surpass it, based on feats. Your only line of defense against this fact, is lowballing, aus usual 🙂.
Originally posted by country1000
So its lowballing when someone claims that superman is FAR from having infinite strength? Yet you disregard the FACT that people like prime, shaggyman, kurse and all-star superman are ALL stronger than superman. Superman is equal to the likes of CM and a little stronger than Wonder Woman, ALL this made CLEAR by the writers of superman, DCs OFFICIAL database and answered by writers being ask by fans. Those are the things you OVERLOOK to try and make superman shine. How in the hell can superman have infinite strength when ALL the writers agree that hes peers with thor, CM, ultraman and a little stronger than WW?? yet NONE OF THEM possess unlimited strength. Answer this question... Who is stronger, your superman or Superman prime?
No, you missed the point. I try to make it as clear as possible.
WBH (best single feat, though shared) = full potential = your base argument in the Forum fight
Hulk (all feats, good and bad) = average WWH
Superman (best single feat, infinite book) = full potential = base argument against best WBH feat
Superman (all feats, good and bad) = average Superman (aka holding back)
If the Hulk side just takes Hulks best and accepts only Supermans average, lowballing or ignoring his best, it's unacceptable. So I prefer to take Supermans best, which is better then Hulks. Very simple.
Full potential vs Full potential
OR
Hulk vs Superman, all the good feats except the two best.
Simple, really.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeStop avoiding the question. Who is stronger, your superman or superman prime? By the way, that booking lifting feat has been discredited plenty of times on this forum.
No, you missed the point. I try to make it as clear as possible.WBH (best single feat, though shared) = full potential = your base argument in the Forum fight
Hulk (all feats, good and bad) = average WWH
Superman (best single feat, infinite book) = full potential = base argument against best WBH feat
Superman (all feats, good and bad) = average Superman (aka holding back)
If the Hulk side just takes Hulks best and accepts only Supermans average, lowballing or ignoring his best, it's unacceptable. So I prefer to take Supermans best, which is better then Hulks. Very simple.
Full potential vs Full potential
OR
Hulk vs Superman, all the good feats except the two best.
Simple, really.
Originally posted by country1000
Stop avoiding the question. Who is stronger, your superman or superman prime?
There is nothing like my Superman and I'm not avoiding anything.
Superman or Superboy Prime?
All out Superman (iow OWAW Mindset or FC) >= Superboy Prime (without the GA).
Average
Superboy Prime >= Superman.
Btw did you know that
Spoiler:
Superman beat Prime in IC? Sure they went through a Red Sun and both lost their powers and SBP killed Kal-L but Superman, even though he had Kryptonite which hurt only him, beat the shit out of Prime, because he was pissed?
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeJesus Christ man, Even the writers stated that prime was far stronger than superman. Please stop responding to my posts.
There is nothing like my Superman and I'm not avoiding anything.Superman or Superboy Prime?
All out Superman (iow OWAW Mindset or FC) >= Superboy Prime (without the GA).
Average
Superboy Prime >= Superman.
Btw did you know that
Spoiler:
Superman beat Prime in IC? Sure they went through a Red Sun and both lost their powers and SBP killed Kal-L but Superman, even though he had Kryptonite which hurt only him, beat the shit out of Prime, because he was pissed?
Originally posted by country1000
But you said that by him getting knocked around and then getting up and beating the threat Proves he has dynamic strength? Not being funny, but thats cherry picking.
No it's not, because they aren't mutually exclusive, especially when that Doomsday was so much more powerful than that Superman.
Originally posted by country1000
Stop avoiding the question. Who is stronger, your superman or superman prime? By the way, that booking lifting feat has been discredited plenty of times on this forum.
Discredited? It still happened.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No, you missed the point. I try to make it as clear as possible.WBH (best single feat, though shared) = full potential = your base argument in the Forum fight
Hulk (all feats, good and bad) = average WWH
Superman (best single feat, infinite book) = full potential = base argument against best WBH feat
Superman (all feats, good and bad) = average Superman (aka holding back)
If the Hulk side just takes Hulks best and accepts only Supermans average, lowballing or ignoring his best, it's unacceptable. So I prefer to take Supermans best, which is better then Hulks. Very simple.
Full potential vs Full potential
OR
Hulk vs Superman, all the good feats except the two best.
Simple, really.
You are missing the point. WBH showed up at least 8 times last year...it IS an average for Hulk...Superman lifting infinite weight isn't an average. Hulk went world breaker so much last year that it basically became part of his character. It doesn't have anything to do with Average or High End when it was shown on panel that Hulk can go World Breaker with just a thought. He can go WWH with just a thought, he can power down with just a thought.
Superman consistently has been shown to be a peer to Captain Marvel and Black Adam. Hulk has consistently shown he can go World Breaker when the time is needed. You brining up one ft comparing it to the MANY times Hulk has transformed into a God like being is being...
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
There is nothing like my Superman and I'm not avoiding anything.Superman or Superboy Prime?
All out Superman (iow OWAW Mindset or FC) >= Superboy Prime (without the GA).
Average
Superboy Prime >= Superman.
Btw did you know that
Spoiler:
Superman beat Prime in IC? Sure they went through a Red Sun and both lost their powers and SBP killed Kal-L but Superman, even though he had Kryptonite which hurt only him, beat the shit out of Prime, because he was pissed?
😂 Superman admitted Prime is stronger than him. What is a OWAW Superman?
Originally posted by carver9I dunno, I've yet to see Superman have to concentrate and put the effort into doing things as Hulk does. Like, try to lift, and not be successful, then try again once he gets mad about it. Superman would just lift it and be done.
So Doomsday and Superman can amp as fast as Hulk?
Hulk's strength fluctuates up and down like crazy but stretches into the immessurable, while Superman's is always ridiculous, and stretches into the immesaurable. Tough to say which is 'faster'.
Originally posted by Juntai
I dunno, I've yet to see Superman have to concentrate and put the effort into doing things as Hulk does. Like, try to lift, and not be successful, then try again once he gets mad about it. Superman would just lift it and be done.Hulk's strength fluctuates up and down like crazy but stretches into the immessurable, while Superman's is always ridiculous, and stretches into the immesaurable. Tough to say which is 'faster'.
What has Hulk failed to lift? Straining...both does it. Show me what you are talking about and we are talking about Savage Hulk since WWH shifted an entire planet with ease...destroyed islands with his punches...lifted large space crafts with one arm along with other things without strain.
Originally posted by carver9
What has Hulk failed to lift? Straining...both does it. Show me what you are talking about and we are talking about Savage Hulk since WWH shifted an entire planet with ease...destroyed islands with his punches...lifted large space crafts with one arm along with other things without strain.
You completely missed the point of his post.