Originally posted by Odekahn
Martain Manhunter Abilities:
Superhuman strength, speed, senses, mentality, and endurance
Shapeshifting
Invulnerability
Vortex Breath
Hypnosis
Telekinesis
Invisibility
Intangibility
Longevity
Healing factor
Flight
Telepathy
Martian Vision
Heat GenerationI think he could take a few hits like Thing and Hulk Buster Iron Man did. And he wouldn't be nearly as pissed at MM as he was Tony.
If you're saying he hates Martain Manhunter as much as those guys, then all J'onn has to do is go intangible. And if he wants to piss off Hulk, He could hit Hulk then immediately go intangible again and continue to do that. MM is too versatile.
Originally posted by Odekahn
No. Hulk stalemates at best. He can't touch Martian Manhunter if he doesn't want to be touched.
The Hulk is also able to project waves of solar energy, are you completely certain that none of that would affect J'onn even if he were to be intangible? J'onn simply doesn't have to power to put WB Hulk down, and when he goes on this hit and run raid that you mentioned do you think that the Hulk would just shut off his energy output every time J'onn attempts to hit him when he becomes solid?
Originally posted by carver9
I never said that Martain Manhunter could beat him physically, and just because he could take a few hits from the Hulk we saw in WWH doesn't mean that he'd even have to. So I'll conceed that MM wouldn't want to take a hit from this Hulk (You're right, I haven't been keeping up). But there's still nothing he could do to Martain Manhunter. There's plenty that MM could do to Hulk. If nothing that MM does succeeds, Hulk stalemates. Best case scenario for Bruce.
Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk is also able to project waves of solar energy, are you completely certain that none of that would affect J'onn even if he were to be intangible? J'onn simply doesn't have to power to put WB Hulk down, and when he goes on this hit and run raid that you mentioned do you think that the Hulk would just shut off his energy output every time J'onn attempts to hit him when he becomes solid?
I'm not the one having to prove that he could affect J'onn while intangible, you are. The burden of proof isn't on me here. And the hit and run is simply an option. I'm not saying that he even has to do that. Hell, J'onn can fly. He can also attack from a distance. He doesn't ever have to be up close and personal with Hulk.
Originally posted by Odekahn
I never said that Martain Manhunter could beat him physically, and just because he could take a few hits from the Hulk we saw in WWH doesn't mean that he'd even have to. So I'll conceed that MM wouldn't want to take a hit from this Hulk (You're right, I haven't been keeping up). But there's still nothing he could do to Martain Manhunter. There's plenty that MM could do to Hulk. If nothing that MM does succeeds, Hulk stalemates. Best case scenario for Bruce.
Yeah like he did with Doomsday Rex right.
Originally posted by Odekahn
I never said that Martain Manhunter could beat him physically, and just because he could take a few hits from the Hulk we saw in WWH doesn't mean that he'd even have to. So I'll conceed that MM wouldn't want to take a hit from this Hulk (You're right, I haven't been keeping up). But there's still nothing he could do to Martain Manhunter. There's plenty that MM could do to Hulk. If nothing that MM does succeeds, Hulk stalemates. Best case scenario for Bruce.
You see those 4 people that were attacking WBH but couldn't even get any type of notice from him?
One of those people is Bi Beast...someone who is arguably stronger than Martian Manhunter.
You see that guy thats blasting Hulk? That's Armageddon, someone who's blasting power stunned Surfer and strength held Merged Hulk at bay.
You see that fury guy...that's Wendigo, someone who has stalemated a pissed Savage Hulk.
You see that fired breathing guy? That's Fing Fang...he was amped with enough power to take over the world during that scene.
All of these people attack World Breaker at the same time and he didn't even recognize them. All of them are elites physically and Armageddon is an elite power output wise.
Then everything blew up on Hulk and he tanked the blast...you know, the same attack that took out two moons and a planet.
What is Martian Manhunter going to do? Then, let's also not forget that the shockwaves from Hulk punches were melting Heralds.
Originally posted by carver9
You see those 4 people that were attacking WBH but couldn't even get any type of notice from him?One of those people is Bi Beast...someone who is arguably stronger than Martian Manhunter.
You see that guy thats blasting Hulk? That's Armageddon, someone who's blasting power stunned Surfer and strength held Merged Hulk at bay.
You see that fury guy...that's Wendigo, someone who has stalemated a pissed Savage Hulk.
You see that fired breathing guy? That's Fing Fang...he was amped with enough power to take over the world during that scene.
All of these people attack World Breaker at the same time and he didn't even recognize them. All of them are elites physically and Armageddon is an elite power output wise.
Then everything blew up on Hulk and he tanked the blast...you know, the same attack that took out two moons and a planet.
What is Martian Manhunter going to do? Then, let's also not forget that the shockwaves from Hulk punches were melting Heralds.
Physically? To that Hulk? Nothing. But I never claimed he'd beat any version of Hulk physically. I only claimed that he could take a hit or two from the Hulk we saw in WWH.
Mentally is another story. But any way you look at it, Hulk is on the defensive. It's "this won't affect Hulk/that won't affect Hulk". And if that be the case (I'm not completely convinced) then it's a stalemate, as I said from the beginning.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Physically? To that Hulk? Nothing. But I never claimed he'd beat any version of Hulk physically. I only claimed that he could take a hit or two from the Hulk we saw in WWH.Mentally is another story. But any way you look at it, Hulk is on the defensive. It's "this won't affect Hulk/that won't affect Hulk". And if that be the case (I'm not completely convinced) then it's a stalemate, as I said from the beginning.
The only way MM even makes this a stalemate is only by staying intangible. Once he gets out of this state to try to attack Hulk...the game is over.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Physically? To that Hulk? Nothing. But I never claimed he'd beat any version of Hulk physically. I only claimed that he could take a hit or two from the Hulk we saw in WWH.Mentally is another story. But any way you look at it, Hulk is on the defensive. It's "this won't affect Hulk/that won't affect Hulk". And if that be the case (I'm not completely convinced) then it's a stalemate, as I said from the beginning.
Actually, if they were in the same universe, the Hulk would be a Martian buster. He's just made to whip J'onn's @$$. Kind of like Despero without the eye thingie.
Originally posted by carver9
The only way MM even makes this a stalemate is only by staying intangible. Once he gets out of this state to try to attack Hulk...the game is over.
The only way MM even makes this a stalemate is if he can't do anything to the Hulk physically or mentally. If this is Hulk at his best, it's Martian Manhunter at his best too. No PIS.
Originally posted by Odekahn
The only way MM even makes this a stalemate is if he can't do anything to the Hulk physically or mentally. If this is Hulk at his best, it's Martian Manhunter at his best too. No PIS.
The thread say WBH...I just showed you WBH. Don't blame me for using this powerful version of the Hulk, blame the thread starter.
MM dies.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Too bad he can't touch him...
It's kind of odd that you say this, the Vision who is another being capable of turning intangible suffered a full system shock when he fazed into the Hulk, I'm almost betting that the same thing may happen to J'onn if he attempted the same stunt. Not to mention the Hulk grabbing energy beings like Zzaxxx and all of that good stuff. You see J'onn wouldn't just be dealing with Mr. Muscle Boy, he would be dealing with a guy saturated with solar energy, and with enough mental scar tissue to send J'onn fleeing in sheer terror.
Originally posted by Stoic
It's kind of odd that you say this, the Vision who is another being capable of turning intangible suffered a full system shock when he fazed into the Hulk, I'm almost betting that the same thing may happen to J'onn if he attempted the same stunt. Not to mention the Hulk grabbing energy beings like Zzaxxx and all of that good stuff. You see J'onn wouldn't just be dealing with Mr. Muscle Boy, he would be dealing with a guy saturated with solar energy, and with enough mental scar tissue to send J'onn fleeing in sheer terror.
Who says MM would try that? And who knows? We can't be for sure either way. Regardless, that's a GIANT "if".
I swear I bet you guys would favor Hulk over God, lol.
