Originally posted by Bardock42lol
Unless you are black, a woman, and don't actually kill anyone.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/marissa-alexander-gets-20_n_1530035.html
"In central Florida, a white man named Orville Lee Wollard is nearly two years into a 20-year sentence for firing his gun inside his house to scare his daughter's boyfriend. Prosecutors contended that Wollard was shooting at the young man and missed."
Originally posted by NemeBro
lol"In central Florida, a [b]white man
named Orville Lee Wollard is nearly two years into a 20-year sentence for firing his gun inside his house to scare his daughter's boyfriend. Prosecutors contended that Wollard was shooting at the young man and missed." [/B]
You don't get to shoot guns and people to scare them because they are dating your daughter 😐
But yes, in that case, as Ush said, it is minimum mandatory laws, that are the issue.
Originally posted by Bardock42But you do get to shoot them if you claim your husband is threatening you?
You don't get to shoot guns and people to scare them because they are dating your daughter 😐
Despite the fact that by pulling the trigger, you are in fact endangering someone's life? And of corse, possibly actually trying to shoot him?
Also, said boyfriend was having a heated fight with said cracker's daughter, aka, doing "threatening behavior" much like the woman in your link.
Yet you find her justified and him not, hmmm... Why is that?
edit DSon't get me wrong, a 20 year life-destroying sentence for that is completely insane, but why make it a race issue?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"A judge threw out Alexander's "stand your ground" self-defense claim, noting that she could have run out of the house to escape her husband but instead got the gun and went back inside."So, uh, black people have a duty to retreat in Florida?
Although, again, if she'd simply killed them the case would probably have never made it to trial.
In Zimmie Wimmie's case, he stated he felt is his life was in danger because he thought his brains were going to be bashed out. The jury bought it and they had evidenciary photos that at least partially backed up his case.
In that woman's case, she left the "scene" and came back, packing heat. That's a much tougher sell, imo.
Originally posted by Bardock42
The US court system is racially biased, I don't think there's any doubt about that. We can say individual cases were not based on race all we want, overall it plays a major factor.I agree however that the laws itself are also insane. What Zimmermann did should have been punishable, that there are laws that protect him is the fundamental issue (that he's also a racist and the police department is racist, while true, is secondary in this case)
Massive amounts of studies have been done and replicated that analyzed how racist the systems were in the US. It turns out, the US is not all that racist.
The race specific arrest rates were closely in line with the race of crime perpetrators. I don't know the numbers off the top of my head but, basically, I mean something like 33% arrest rate for blacks and 33% identifying rate of blacks as perpetrators of crimes.
But you may bring up the justice system. When several legal variables are controlled(socioeconomic status, type of crimes, etc), the disproportion between white/black sentencing almost disappears.
One study showed white defendants were prosecuted MORE often than their black counterparts.
Yet, the media still perpetuates the idea that blacks are treated unfairly in the criminal justice system. That does not appear to be the case. It looks like they are just significantly more likely to commit harsher crimes than their counterparts.
It is difficult to find something on the internet that is not from a biased media outlet regarding this topic. It is difficult to just find data regarding this. So I gave up.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You don't get to shoot guns and people to scare them because they are dating your daughter 😐
I believe it was a domestic violence issue which caused the gun to be shot. Regardless I don't find race to be the issue here I think it's disgusting how someone walked away from murder.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You could at least post the studies you are citing.
Just use Google. I've given you the ideas, no go forth, my son, and discover.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+justice+system+is+not+racist
This looks good:
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/larry-elder/five-myths-of-the-%E2%80%98racist-criminal-justice-system/
Originally posted by dadudemon
In that woman's case, she left the "scene" and came back, packing heat. That's a much tougher sell, imo.
The defense cites a case in their first motion for acquittal that has similar circumstances. Man leaves the scene, goes to his car with the specific intent to get a gun and shoot the person, shoots the person, and gets off on all charges, iirc. All I'm saying is that it wouldn't be without precedence.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yet, the media still perpetuates the idea that blacks are treated unfairly in the criminal justice system. That does not appear to be the case. It looks like they are just significantly more likely to commit harsher crimes than their counterparts.
would you accept that the racism of the courts is related to the racism that structures society in general?
also, drug statistics are the exact opposite of what you have said. In the case of something like cocaine, whites use and sell it more, yet are many times less likely to be arrested and even less likely to be prosecuted. The documentary "how to make money selling drugs" has the raw numbers iirc, and is also a really good watch.