Combat speed: Thor Vs Lobo Vs Hulk Vs Doomsday

Started by Galan00711 pages

Originally posted by carver9
🤣 Can you please show these speed fts.
Most/all of Doomsday and Superman's battle in Metropolis took place at superspeed--hence Superman's comment in the scan I posted a few pages ago.

Originally posted by Odekahn
You're only half right here. Doomsday wasn't "sped up." He was CREATED that fast.

Except... he wasn't.

You know it's amusing when the Thorbags can make a better case for Thor being FTL than Doomsday fanboys.

Originally posted by Galan007
Flight speed=/=combat speed, genius.

We're not talking about who would win in a race between Supes and Doomsday, we are talking about how fast they move in a FIGHT.

And that's when the onlookers stated SUPERMAN was moving in a blur. During the time he blitzed Doomsday.

I'm asking you to show me these speed fts after DOS. Would you like examples of what I am asking for Galan?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And you don't see a difference between Superman's normal speed, and a difficult yet still possible to fallow "blur"? Hard to fallow motion blur is street level man. Superman's got a speed vasectomy in DOS, he was jobbed out to Doomsday. Plain and simple.

It shows that the fight played out real time and not at super speed "we just didn't realizes it was super speed but it was the writers intention it was super speed", like Galan suggested.

Based on what? Are we just ignoring all the evidence that supports Doomsday having speed now?

The JLA has speed too.

Originally posted by carver9
And that's when the onlookers stated SUPERMAN was moving in a blur. During the time he blitzed Doomsday.

I'm asking you to show me these speed fts after DOS. Would you like examples of what I am asking for Galan?

He's not going to waste his time, because you've been shown all this before, and still you just pretend you "forgot" or some other excuse.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Except... he wasn't.

You know it's amusing when the Thorbags can make a better case for Thor being FTL than Doomsday fanboys.

Lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
Most/all of Doomsday and Superman's battle in Metropolis took place at superspeed--hence Superman's comment in the scan I posted a few pages ago.

And yet it was witnessed by civilians, documented by Jimmy with flash photography, Superman received back up from human fodder more than once... I guess everyone in Metropolis is FTL. Apparently that is more logical that Superman jobbing?

Originally posted by Major Disaster
I don't think that scan can be argued with tbh.
You probably haven't seen OneDumbGo argue that Superman was Hulk-level in speed when he said that, because he was tired and hurt, and he like.. totally couldn't move a helicopter with Lois and Jimmy very fast.

Originally posted by carver9
And that's when the onlookers stated SUPERMAN was moving in a blur. During the time he blitzed Doomsday.
That was FLIGHT SPEED, Einstein. Vastly different than COMBAT SPEED.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm asking you to show me these speed fts after DOS. Would you like examples of what I am asking for Galan?
They are in my DD respect thread.

Originally posted by Galan007
Most/all of Doomsday and Superman's battle in Metropolis took place at superspeed--hence Superman's comment in the scan I posted a few pages ago.

So Lois or any other Metropolis citizens didn't see any of the fight? I could have sworn the fight was being recorded and published on tv for the world to see.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Apparently that is more logical that Superman jobbing?
Superman was jobbing to himself (it was a thought bubble) as he was getting trounced?

Yeah, you don't low-ball. 😂

Originally posted by Galan007
That was FLIGHT SPEED, Einstein. Vastly different than COMBAT SPEED.

They are in my DD respect thread.

I know...it was Superman flight speed which was the comment about the blur from the onlooker.

Originally posted by carver9
I know...it was Superman flight speed which was the comment about the blur from the onlooker.
Very good.

Combat speed is what we're talking about here.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And yet it was witnessed by civilians, documented by Jimmy with flash photography, Superman received back up from human fodder more than once... I guess everyone in Metropolis is FTL. Apparently that is more logical that Superman jobbing?

Lol.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Based on what? Are we just ignoring all the evidence that supports Doomsday having speed now?

The JLA has speed too.

I just told you... like five minutes ago...

But the reported Superman was talking to was baseline human. Everything that happened in DOS took place in a speed that was slow enough that normal humans could fallow the action. That can't be argued. Normal human perception is a constant, Superman's speed is a variable, we don't know how fast was moving, but we do know normal people could perceive his fight. Ipso facto Superman's speed was nerfed.

Originally posted by carver9
And that's when the onlookers stated SUPERMAN was moving in a blur. During the time he blitzed Doomsday.

Then why was it stated in present tense? It was said "I... I think the red-an-blue thing IS Superman. I don't want to know what the other thing is!"

If it was just a blur flying by, then by the time he got a couple of words out they (Supes and DD) would already be gone. Thus, it would have been said/written in past tense.

Superman hit him with a flying attack but that's not the end of the fight. There's a panel before and after that.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman was jobbing to himself (it was a thought bubble) as he was getting trounced?

Yeah, you don't low-ball. 😂

He was jobbed out period. Why would the narration be held to a different standard than the art and general plotting of the story? 😕

Originally posted by -Pr-
The JLA has speed too.
And that's the crackpoint now suddenly everything is Superman fast, Steel also fought DD (not the same DD I know). Going by this unquantifable speed equivalation I can make legit cases of Spider-man and others being FTL.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He was jobbed out period. Why would the narration be held to a different standard than the art and general plotting of the story? 😕
So Superman was jobbing? Guy was jobbing? Maxima was jobbing? Booster was jobbing? Everyone who said DD was moving FAST, as they were getting owned by him was jobbing?

Yeah that makes more sense then taking the writer's word literally. srsly

Originally posted by Philosophía
You probably haven't seen OneDumbGo argue that Superman was Hulk-level in speed when he said that, because he was tired and hurt, and he like.. totally couldn't move a helicopter with Lois and Jimmy very fast.

I cry for him :-(

Originally posted by Odekahn
Then why was it stated in present tense? It was said "I... I think the red-an-blue thing IS Superman. I don't want to know what the other thing is!"

If it was just a blur flying by, then by the time he got a couple of words out they (Supes and DD) would already be gone. Thus, it would have been said/written in past tense.

Superman hit him with a flying attack but that's not the end of the fight. There's a panel before and after that.

We clearly see Superman rushing Doomsday. The only person that was a blur during that scene was Superman...Superman taking Doomsday with him caused Doomsday to move in a blur fashion as well since he was bullrushed.