Originally posted by abhilegendCheck out the sif fight again. He mostly uses 'H2H' skills as you put it in that sequence.
I only disagreed on h2h unarmed combat skills of thor. If you haven't noticed this is a strict h2h combat.
He dodges her sword attack easily, then uses his hands to grab her by the hair and basically put her in bad position only then does he use his sword to put it to her neck.
At that point in time he could have done a half dozen things to finish her off.
If he can dodge a sword being thrust at him while smiling a think a punch will be ok.
Plus do realize most armed combat does incorporate unarmed ideas into it. Kicks punches headbutts those are all things used in armed combat as well.
Originally posted by Philosophía
This thread is not about them fencing, it's about hand to hand combat. That part of the discussion is irrelevant and for another thread, so move away from it.
Ok you did see these posts right?
Originally posted by Newjak
A fencing athlete would not be more skilled in H2H combat then a MMA fighter, but at the same time there is still a lot of crossover between the two.The ability to move, dodge and weave, counter, thinking critically in close quarters combat, defending from different angles and attacks.
Thinking that just because you are skilled with a sword vs H2H somehow means you lose those things that are shared between them is wrong.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I've tried to tell him several times now, the armed examples were posted because 1) he disgareed about Thor being better at armed combat and 2) some of them include Thor using kicks, throws and agility which would help in a hth fight.
Would you then exclude alot of Cap h2h feats because he uses his shield alot, or alot of DD feats because he uses his billyclub?
Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman holds every physical advantage
Well superspeed is off and Superman does not have a big, durability, strength and stamina advantage. Obvoulsy you're going to tell me he does.
Originally posted by Philosophía
and he has hand to hand feats that are visibly superior to Thor's.
Of course he may have some feats that are better than Thors, but alot of Thors feats are better in general. I'm pretty sure that Falcon has some fighting feats better than Cap, doesn't mean hes better.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaThat means that it doesn't matter if this will be a slugfest, a skill involving contest or them simply trying to outmuscle eachother - Superman will win in each and every one of them.
That's a stomp.
Still waiting for proof.
Originally posted by biensalsa
I'm not making excuses.What excuses you have to bring armed feats to a H2H forum?
1) You brought up armed combat 2) You disagreed that Thor was more skilled in armed combat and 3) Several of the armed feats also include things like agility, kicks, throws, dodging and situational awareness which would have a bearing on a HTH fight.
Originally posted by Newjak
Check out the sif fight again. He mostly uses 'H2H' skills as you put it in that sequence.He dodges her sword attack easily, then uses his hands to grab her by the hair and basically put her in bad position only then does he use his sword to put it to her neck.
At that point in time he could have done a half dozen things to finish her off.
If he can dodge a sword being thrust at him while smiling a think a punch will be ok.
Plus do realize most armed combat does incorporate unarmed ideas into it. Kicks punches headbutts those are all things used in armed combat as well.
I've been saying that for several posts, maybe they'll listen to you.
Originally posted by Newjak
Check out the sif fight again. He mostly uses 'H2H' skills as you put it in that sequence.He dodges her sword attack easily, then uses his hands to grab her by the hair and basically put her in bad position only then does he use his sword to put it to her neck.
At that point in time he could have done a half dozen things to finish her off.
If he can dodge a sword being thrust at him while smiling a think a punch will be ok.
Plus do realize most armed combat does incorporate unarmed ideas into it. Kicks punches headbutts those are all things used in armed combat as well.
I'm going to post it anyway.
Superman vs a mind controlled Batman (the green glow is him exuding Kryptonite radiation):
Bear in mind, if you do argue that Batman being mind-controlled is less effective, that a mind-controlled Superman seemed to hold up with Wonder Woman (debateable, of course, but it was no stomp).
Originally posted by abhilegendRunning sideways while covering yourself with a trash can is not blocking bullets... 😐
Superman while depowered has blocked bullets
Fights a martial artist:
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Pressure point fighting:
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Originally posted by Deadline
Ok you did see these posts right?Would you then exclude alot of Cap h2h feats because he uses his shield alot, or alot of DD feats because he uses his billyclub?
Well superspeed is off and Superman does not have a big, durability, strength and stamina advantage. Obvoulsy you're going to tell me he does.
Of course he may have some feats that are better than Thors, but alot of Thors feats are better in general. I'm pretty sure that Falcon has some fighting feats better than Cap, doesn't mean hes better.
Still waiting for proof.
Originally posted by abhilegendWasn't that Superman with WW and Batman helping or combined with him or something like that?
Tell me which thor feat is better than this
Originally posted by DarkSaint85What are you talking about. None of the bullets hit the trash can...He ran sideways covering his head until he threw it at the guy.
He blocked the bullets. With a trash can..Also, this was a depowered Superman.
He did not block or deflect any bullets in that scan 😐
Originally posted by Newjak
Wasn't that Superman with WW and Batman helping or combined with him or something like that?What are you talking about. None of the bullets hit the trash can...He ran sideways covering his head until he threw it at the guy.
He did not block or deflect any bullets in that scan 😐
Why are the people who complained that I posted armed feats posting feats where Superman was armed?
