Chaos King vs Lucifer Morningstar

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Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by ODG
The overtly limp-d1ckery is a nice touch. kinda

How does it feel to be owned by zopzop's perfectly legitimate criticisms? That sh1t must burn. Like acid or something.


The overt ass-kissing you're bestowing upon flopflop is a nice touch. Now I am definitely convinced that your account has indeed been hacked by quan today. kinda

What next, are you going to admit that quan ate your soul which is why you're subscribing to the horrid form of argumentation that he is well-known for trolling in Lucifer threads?

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Epicurus
Do you suffer from SPD? Honest to god question. Or am I to believe that besides the usual tools like quan and flop, you actually have even a single sane poster on your side whose willing to be stupid enough to challenge the multiversality of Lucifer's feat as you just did? Don't make me laugh.

Argumentum ad populum

Look it up forum philosopher.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by zopzop
/yawn
But this is actually step up for you though.

How does it feel going from Dumby's metaphorical b1tch to virtual e-lover?

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by zopzop
Argumentum ad populum

Look it up forum philosopher.


I am referring to him referring himself as "us", dumbys-dick-licker.

Read and comprehend before replying. Trust me, you don't want to be even remotely as bad as your e-lover has demonstrably shown over the last five pages of this thread. 😂

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Epicurus
How does it feel going from Dumby's metaphorical b1tch to virtual e-lover?

This is still an improvement for you. You haven't included forum members family members in your little tirades, yet. I guess we should be thankful for the little things.

CK destroys Lucifer.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by zopzop
This is still an improvement for you. You haven't included forum members family members in your little tirades, yet. I guess we should be thankful for the little things.

I accept your concession.🙂
Originally posted by zopzop

CK destroys Lucifer.

In your wet fantasies, brolio. This thread clearly belongs to Lucifer.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Epicurus
I am referring to him referring himself as "us", dumbys-dick-licker.

Read and comprehend before replying. Trust me, you don't want to be even remotely as bad as your e-lover has demonstrably shown over the last five pages of this thread. 😂


Speaking of reading comprehension, you said this right?
Or am I to believe that besides the usual tools like quan and flop, you actually have even a single sane poster on your side whose willing to be stupid enough to challenge the multiversality of Lucifer's feat as you just did? Don't make me laugh.

The validity/truth of his argument(s) has nothing to do with the number of people agreeing with it/him. Hence your fallacy.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!
Originally posted by Epicurus
Which it absolutely is. Your criterion for a feat to be multiversal is if it involves alternate universes. We saw in the Naglfar voyage that alternate universes exist as part of Yahweh's creation. It was blatantly implied many times across the series that Lucifer's creation was equal to Yahweh's in practically every way and form sans an afterlife. Again, 2+2=4. Not that I expect you to comprehend even the most basic of basic math.

well, it's tough following this discussion, but of one thing there is no doubt at all--vertigo most certainly did consist of alternate universes....

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/otheramericas.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/smiley.jpg.html

there are many other scans to back this idea up. in fact, boss smiley was actually 'god' in his universe, and he was talking to prez and dream in his universe's HEAVEN because prez had died. dream walked into smiley's heaven, told him smiley he had no power over him (dream) and took prez away so he could continue on his journey across all the americas.

the whole inn at the world's end arc (starting in sandman #51) was BASED on alternate universes and dimensions. it's proof positive that dream himself (and death who brought prez to smiley and who let dream know what he should do....) is a TRULY multiversal entity, able to supersede the powers of even the RULING bodies of alternate universe. also proof positive that the vertigo universe was indeed a true-in-every-sense-of-the-word MULTIVERSE.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by ODG
Reported for being on-topic. sneer

The heroes had to do quite a bit to accomplish their BFR of Chaos King. Galactus working with Cho to bridge the infinite gulf that made the Continuum the perfect place to trick the Chaos King into settling in, the assembled heroes and Supergod Hercules falling like flies to distract Chaos King from the trap being sprung, etc.

Even if we fairly and rightly assume Lucifer's crafty enough to trick him on his own, I'm not sure we can just assume in this neutral setting that Lucifer will have his Gate(s) or that Galactus and Cho will be setting up a convenient portal to somewhere far across the gulf of universal/multiversal expansion.

I dunno. It seems like conjuring said gateways was child's play for Lucifer--part of his powerset. Here is one(of many) examples:
http://imgur.com/qHeRjG3
Dunno why an ability so frequently used would be forbade him here..?

I believe Lucifer would swiftly realize CK=Oblivion, and that you can't really 'destroy' a concept like that in the conventional sense. Henceforth he'd conjure a gateway, lure CK through it into the void, and once there CK would expand-to-fill and be perfectly content with his solitarity. /shrug

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by zopzop
Speaking of reading comprehension, you said this right?

The validity/truth of his argument(s) has nothing to do with the number of people agreeing with it/him. Hence your fallacy.


You:"Sky is yellow."
Me:"No, it's blue in general."
You:"Sky is yellow."

That's what you just did there, flop.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Epicurus
You:"Sky is yellow."
Me:"No, it's blue in general."
You:"Sky is yellow."

That's what you just did there, flop.


Fail example, because there was on panel evidence for Lucifer/Michael's creation being a universe.....multiple times.

ODG Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Epicurus
But thing is that you didn't really do anything of the sort. There is a difference between exclaiming a point and then trying to actually prove said point. Spamming irrelevant nonsense over and over(something which you've become quite adept at as can be seen on the last 4-5 pages of this thread) to delude yourself into thinking that you proved your point isn't really proving said point.
We all get that you're impotent in the face of the primary source material and the direct evidence being slapped across your face, but you don't get to subvert their merit by suggesting they're irrelevant. I've posted scans of the scene in question that directly shows the feat and directly describes Lucifer's creation as we're looking at scenes play out inside Lucifer's creation:

Why so butthurt over scans from the comic involving the character you appreciate?

Originally posted by Epicurus
At most three earths?
Yes, the vast majority of Lucifer's arc occurred on three Earth's. God's, Lucifer's and Elaine's. And the relevant Earth is Lucifer's. Since it's Lucifer we're dealing with. You can show me the endless alternate Earth that Lucifer molded by his hand if you'd like. Just don't expect me to seriously believe all that is off-panel.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Do you suffer from SPD? Honest to god question. Or am I to believe that besides the usual tools like quan and flop, you actually have even a single sane poster on your side whose willing to be stupid enough to challenge the multiversality of Lucifer's feat as you just did? Don't make me laugh.
I'm dealing with a two-faced, self-serving moron, so there's always the fear your idiocy might flake onto me like hypocritical dandruff. But, no. I am happy to deal with the direct scene in question, post scans from it, and watch you flail and burn out from the trainwreck you found yourself in. But the decent into abject trollery you're forcing onto this thread will hopefully cover up the complete deconstruction I subjected your argument and Lucifer's multiversality.

Not really.

Originally posted by Epicurus
The overt ass-kissing you're bestowing upon flopflop is a nice touch. Now I am definitely convinced that your account has indeed been hacked by quan today. kinda
Better than having my brain hijacked by him. /shrug

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by leonidas
well, it's tough following this discussion, but of one thing there is no doubt at all--vertigo most certainly did consist of alternate universes....

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/otheramericas.jpg.html

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/smiley.jpg.html

there are many other scans to back this idea up. in fact, boss smiley was actually 'god' in his universe, and he was talking to prez and dream in his universe's HEAVEN because prez had died. dream walked into smiley's heaven, told him smiley he had no power over him (dream) and took prez away so he could continue on his journey across all the americas.

the whole inn at the world's end arc (starting in sandman #51) was BASED on alternate universes and dimensions. it's proof positive that dream himself (and death who brought prez to smiley and who let dream know what he should do....) is a TRULY multiversal entity, able to supersede the powers of even the RULING bodies of alternate universe. also proof positive that the vertigo universe was indeed a true-in-every-sense-of-the-word MULTIVERSE.


Originally posted by ODG
No, it doesn't. And especially not in Vertigo or Lucifer's stories. There, that was simple.

ODG Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Galan007
I dunno. It seems like conjuring said gateways was child's play for Lucifer--part of his powerset. Here is one(of many) examples:
http://imgur.com/qHeRjG3
Dunno why an ability so frequently used would be forbade him here..?

I believe Lucifer would swiftly realize CK=Oblivion, and that you can't really 'destroy' a concept like that in the conventional sense. Henceforth he'd conjure a gateway, lure CK through it into the void, and once there CK would expand-to-fill and be perfectly content with his solitarity. /shrug

I was under the impression that L.A. was the physical location of the gate God granted Lucifer. It's why the angels invaded L.A. and the cosmic Mexican standoff was held there. This was before he split it apart across God's creation. If the Gate to the Void exists in the neutral setting, sure he could do it easily. He did all sorts of things with the Gate from splitting it to expanding it, etc.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by ODG
We all get that you're impotent in the face of the primary source material and the direct evidence being slapped across your face, but you don't get to subvert their merit by suggesting they're irrelevant. I've posted scans of the scene in question that directly shows the feat and directly describes Lucifer's creation as we're looking at scenes play out inside Lucifer's creation:

Why so butthurt over scans from the comic involving the character you appreciate?


Spamming random scans(leeched from respect threads no doubt) up and down across this thread doesnit n't count as primary evidence. Not to mentioned that scan too is saved in my lucifer-related photobucket library, something which you would've known had you paid even the slightest bit of attention when I directed you to browse though it.
Originally posted by ODG

Yes, the vast majority of Lucifer's arc occurred on three Earth's. God's, Lucifer's and Elaine's. And the relevant Earth is Lucifer's. Since it's Lucifer we're dealing with.

Are you trying to counter my point here that Lucifer was a bible-based comic series with an obvious Earth-centric focus on the main storyline? Because if you are, bang-up job you've done of it so far.
Originally posted by ODG

I'm dealing with a two-faced, self-serving moron, so there's always the fear your idiocy might flake onto me like hypocritical dandruff. But, no. I am happy to deal with the direct scene in question, post scans from it, and watch you flail and burn out from the trainwreck you found yourself in. But the decent into abject trollery you're forcing onto this thread will hopefully cover up the complete deconstruction I subjected your argument and Lucifer's multiversality.

Not really.


I'm dealing with a functional retard who actually believes that if he keeps repeating a lie sufficient number of times, it'll magically become the truth. Since that clearly describes you in a nutshell. Lawl, still clinging to that word "deconstruction" like a monkey clings to its mother's breast. Methinks you don't actually know the meaning of the term, but still like to throw it around simply to try and fit in with the cool kids of the yard.

But still, do go ahead and continue with this hilarity. I am sure to get a few more profileworthy moments from your descent to inanity even greater than what you currently suffer from.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by ODG
Better than having my brain hijacked by him. /shrug

Don't worry. We have quan for that as well. All's we need now is a full-on confession on your part. After all, if you're capable of doing the hitherto impossible feat of fellating floppy's sloppy seconds, I am pretty sure that you're capable of admitting that quan currently holds your soul in his grasp.👆

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by zopzop
Fail example, because there was on panel evidence for Lucifer/Michael's creation being a universe.....multiple times.

None of which overrides him actually explaining to Mazikeen what his creation truly is. Try again. 🙂

Sundipped MURDERER
Originally posted by Epicurus
Now I am definitely convinced that your account has indeed been hacked by quan today. kinda

If that's the case, then quan has been seriously working on his vocab. Quite a step up from the usual "based on/Thanos wins" replies.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by Sundipped
If that's the case, then quan has been seriously working on his vocab. Quite a step up from the usual "based on/Thanos wins" replies.

Quan's always had good vocab, you would know if you've ever debated with him beyond the comic book forums. Not that that makes him any less of a sh1tty debater than he actually is.

Sundipped MURDERER
Originally posted by Epicurus
Quan's always had good vocab, you would know if you've ever debated with him beyond the comic book forums. Not that that makes him any less of a sh1tty debater than he actually is.

Yeah I caught a battle zone debate once...my reaction was: