You seem to forget that while John had a good night's rest and some Cheerios before he did that, Bauer spent 20 months having this happen to him
Originally posted by Lestov16
YouTube videoJack withstood this for [b]20 months
without saying a word out of sheer willpower and then the day he came back, without any rest or anything, went on to kill 50 people [/B]
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
In other words: "still ignoring feats."
Indeed
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Theres nothing to suggest that McClane wouldn't be able to endure that.
Do you know how long 20 months is?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
(or escape it, killing all of his enemies all the way)
😂......No. 😐
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But this is about "Can Bauer do the DH gauntlet".
And all data points to "No" being the answer.
Wuuuttt??
Bauer manhandles this Gauntlet. McClane spends entire 12-hour periods taking on chump wannabe-terrorists that Jack could probably solo in a good 10 minutes
Originally posted by Robtard
With the near constant help of CTU and 36+ Delta-Force commandos at his back, he could.
You haven't reached Season 6.
The fact that he was able to do ANYTHING, that day period, considering he had for 20 consecutive months, endured brutal torture (which he withstood without saying a single word out of sheer willpower, which is not hyperbole), already puts him on a superhuman level of endurance unreachable by McClane, who has NEVER withstood that amount of pain EVER in any of his showings, but then he goes on to get tortured some more, and then goes on to kill 50 people, including going Hannibal (I've never seen McClane that ruthless EVER, and it's not a one time thing, because as ninjak, who saw the vid noted, Jack again ruthlessly applies the bite technique in his fight), jumping kicking a suicide bomber out of a subway train, destroying an entire terrorist compound full of terrorists with automatic weapons using only a handgun, and WTFpwning a PLA death squad, amassing a killcount which outnumbers McClane's highest showings.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
...and yet he couldn't withstand 1 old lady with a tazer.Zzzap..!!
Clearly him in his junior days, not to mention that you have failed to explain how an old woman is going to keep a tazer directly on his heart for 10 seconds without Bauer snapping her weak-ass neck
But going by that logic, Bauer can stop McClane with a broken bottle.
Ggglass..!!
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
naughty
The fact that Bauer never went incestuous on that>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>McClane being married to Holly
Ohhhhhh we see now. You argue desperately that all of Bauers TV feats should be somehow canon here....except for the bits that show how flawed the idea of Bauer being able to kill McClane is.
Except your "comparison" is flawed. A broken bottle has never killed McClane or even really caused him that much of a problem.
Nah it doesn't just speaks of his character and decency. Which he must rely on as physically hes a bit of a wuss, isn't he..? Zzzaaaapp!
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ohhhhhh we see now. You argue desperately that all of Bauers TV feats should be somehow canon here....
Ohhhhhhhh we see now. You argue desperately that Bauer getting electrocuted is Bauer's weakness, although I have posted blatant evidence that shows that he overcame that weakness at his peak human levels
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Bauer being able to kill McClane is.
Hold on now, we are talking about Bauer completing this gauntlet, which he has shown he can easily withstand, even at his physically weakest and without any rest, whereas McClane needs a good night's rest, a shower, and some breakfast before he goes on his adventures.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Except your "comparison" is flawed. A broken bottle has never killed McClane or even really caused him that much of a problem..
Wat I mean to say is: "Place broken glass in the floor in front of him, and watch McClane take a time out". Oh, he has feats that prove him more durable than that you say? How is that any different from my argument?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
physically hes a bit of a wuss, isn't he..?
Which is why after taking pain on a level McClane would cower in a fettle position against, he killed 50 people, including jump-kicking a suicide bomber out of a subway train. I'd say a "physical wuss" is someone who has to take a time out because he got some glass in his foot 😂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Hey he ran through that glass voluntarily as strategic withdrawal to evade capture and to save the day.
Bauer would have just been captured, Hans would have had his detonators etc etc
He is not shown showering and getting good night's sleep either.McClane wins.
I know you are busting balls...but I saw a few fight sequences with Bauer and, dude...he ****in' rapes. He's got absurd H2H abilities that are over-the-top.
He did this one "run up the wall" thing, and killed a guy in a split second in one of season finales. I was like, "OOOOHHHH SHIIIIEEEET!"
I would put him on par with a realistic version of Batman though I would give the edge to Batman.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Hey he ran through that glass voluntarily as strategic withdrawal to evade capture and to save the day.
You mean he was about to be facephucked by Han's men and had to bail? Indeed.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Bauer would have just been captured,
😆 I love how you say this right after stating McClane had to flee from getting man handled.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He is not shown showering and getting good night's sleep either.
Bauer didn't shower because he was stuck in a Chinese prison. McClane's just dirty 😂
And show me one instance where McClane starts off his adventure on a pain level such as 20 months of torture. Your bias is causing you to lie 😉
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane wins.
In a "Who can whine and ***** about their circumstances the most?" contest, I agree absolutely. Anything having to do with physical skills......
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane faces nothing better than circus clowns/hamster wheel people
Indeed
Oh dear.
Your McBitterness is clearly gripping that wheel down to the metal.
So because your guy was unable to prevent himself being captured/tortured, anyone who does is somehow bad? lol
Die Hard 3: Massive hangover. Still killed everyone.
Also: McCompetance and logic dictate that the reason that McClane never was physically tortured for 20 months is because if he was the sort to let that happen, he wouldn't be McClane.
He'd be someone else not quite as good.... Someone more on Bauer's level. (as impressive as that level might be to everyone else but McClane..)
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh dear.My McBias is clearly gripping that wheel down to the metal.
Indeed
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So because your guy was unable to prevent himself being captured/tortured, anyone who does is somehow bad? lol
😂 I love how you act like Han's chump mercs and a PLA Death Squad are equal in competence
First off, McClane was about to be facephucked by chumps like Han's men. Matter of fact he has been in the position of being facephucked by chump wannabe-terrorists multiple times. Even a retard like Simon did it 😂.
Second off, Bauer's enemies (who actually threaten civilization as we know it)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wannabe terrorists who are nothing more than glorified extrortionists
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Die Hard 3: Massive hangover. Still killed everyone.
😆 are you trying to say hangover>>>>>20 months of torture? Not to mention his piss-poor killcount compared to Bauer's, who suffered far worse than a hangover the previous day
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Also: McCompetance and logic dictate that the reason that McClane never was physically tortured for 20 months is because if he was the sort to let that happen, he wouldn't be McClane.
I'd say it's more because McClane's wannabe-terrorist villains are not nearly as competent or logical as Bauer's actual-terrorist villains (including Gabriel, whom Bauer would have phucked like Sandusky on an 14-year old)
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He'd be someone else not quite as good.... Someone more on Bauer's level. (as impressive as that level might be to everyone else but McClane..)
So he lowers in levels.....and then raises to Bauer's level (which far exceeds his own)? How does that work?? 😕