Doesnt really matter anyway does it?
As another reason that it doesn't exist, is EU/TV "feats" are inadmissable.
This is why its is so blatant that this is an anti-McClane grudge thread. 🙂
And those who flaut MVF rules by demanding that 'that cannot be counted' be counted cannot cry foul here.
No matter how bad a chess player is losing, they cannot make a move where a harrier jump jet comes in and decimates the board with artillery.
No matter how bad a boxer is getting beaten by their opponent, they are STILL not a allowed to shoot the other guy out of tears and angst.
No matter how many times a race car driver is being lapped, they still cannot suddenly declare themselves 3 laps ahead arbitrarily.
No matter how bad Bauer is outclassed here by McDeeds, McFacts, logic and reason (The currency of good debate), it is moot anyway as Bauer isn't admissable until he gets feature pictures made that can be entered here.
The fact that McClane pwns the gauntlet in all 4 released movies. (And looks like he will in number 5 too, judging by the fact that Willis plans to do 6 movies) and Bauer has zero feature movies to his name renders it McWin yet again.
Every dimension of this debate has been won by those arguing McClane. Not because they want to break rules, ignore logic and reason to get a pointless baseless egowin, but by using reasoned and proven arguments throughout and sticking to MVF rules.. 🙂
Apparently the 24 movie may start filming next spring.
After that, we will be able to look at the feats within and you guys will be able to genuinely pit Bauer against the man he imitates.
Then, when he has made 4 or 5 more movies (depending on how many more DH's get made) it might be worth comparing screenfeats too. 🙂 )
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No matter how bad Bauer is outclassed here by McDeeds, McFacts, logic and reason (The currency of good debate),
Oh, McCurrency. Makes sense, considering your McBiased arguments are about as refutable and worthless as Zimbabwe dollars 😂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
it is moot anyway as Bauer isn't admissable until he gets feature pictures made that can be entered here.The fact that McClane pwns the gauntlet in all 4 released movies. (And looks like he will in number 5 too, judging by the fact that Willis plans to do 6 movies) and Bauer has zero feature movies to his name renders it McWin yet again.
[i]Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Every dimension of this debate has been won by those arguing McClane.
😆 In what wet dream of yours?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Not because they want to break rules, ignore logic and reason to get a pointless baseless egowin,
I'm sure those weren't your original intentions going in, but hey, McBias is a filthy thing that corrupts everything it touches
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
but by using reasoned and proven arguments throughout
"MCCLANES DOMNATES F35s!!!!!!!"
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Apparently the 24 movie may start filming next spring.
Bullshit. Kiefer's been saying that crap for years. I don't trust it.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
you guys
By "you guys" you mean the vast majority who don't suffer from McBias and clearly see Bauer destroys McClane in everything?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
will be able to genuinely pit Bauer against the man he imitates.
Bauer doesn't imitate anyone. LFODH, which ripped off 24's existential threat plot on the other hand......
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Then, when he has made 4 or 5 more movies (depending on how many more DH's get made) it might be worth comparing screenfeats too. 🙂 )
Die Hard wishes it could compare to even one season of 24.
Originally posted by Lestov16
It's funny how Camp McBiased are always asking "Some MotherF**kers" for evidence yet ignore the repeatedly presented evidence because "they don't want it spoiled" 😂 Just because you haven't seen it yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
As I said, the vast majority of your "evidence" thus far has turned out to either be total BS or massively over-hyped.
eg You once claimed Bauer saved America from a nation-wide nuclear reactor meltdown. Turns out some fat geek at the CTU saved all but six with his computer, one of those six did melt and the other five were saved by Bauer with MASSIVE help from the CTU, Tony and Paul. Now, not saying what Bauer did wasn't impressive, but you initially sold it at thousands of times greater.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Yeah but you forget, it took McClane 12 hours or more to stop Gabriel's plot. Bauer had two hours
You seem to keep forgetting:
1) This thread isn't about McClane
2) Bauer had more than 2 hours, the last reactors were shutdown at ep 12 of S4.
3) Bauer (unlike McClane) had MASSIVE help from the CTU and various people along the way.
4) Point was, you masturbated Bauer once again.
1) This thread is about if Bauer can handle McClane's amateur wannabe-terrorist gauntlet. He has feats that prove that he easily can. Feats that you both have and haven't yet seen.
2) Fine, 6 hours. Still a shitload less time than McClane (and a shitload more adversaries as well that Jack personally put a bullet in or neck-snapped)
3) Well Marwan is MASSIVELY more dangerous than the wannabes McClane takes on. Unlike Simon, he's not the kind of guy to leave somebody alive in a Dr.Evil-level deathtrap and give them evidence as to their next location. Remember, this thread is about whether Bauer can take McClane's villains, and given the caliber of threat Bauer takes on, combined with the proven incompetence I have shown that McVillains have that severely outclasses any incompetency of Bauer's villains, it's absolutely certain that he can
4) Point is, Bauer takes on threats that McClane would cry like a bytch trying to avert, and thus easily completes McClane's gauntlet
-Are you insane?
Duh
-Not only is this thread not about McClane (for the 20th time),
It's about his adversaries, who I've been scrutinizing this entire thread via the proven Retarded Amateur Factor
-McClane has four films worth of epic feats
Bauer has 192 hours worth of epic feats that surpass McClane chump wins against amateurs all day every day
Also, thank you for informing me of McClane's epic feats in a thread you are so adamant "isn't about him" 😂
Originally posted by Lestov16
DuhIt's about his adversaries, who I've been scrutinizing this entire thread via the [b]proven
Retarded Amateur FactorBauer has 192 hours worth of epic feats that surpass McClane chump wins against amateurs all day every day
Also, thank you for informing me of McClane's epic feats in a thread you are so adamant "isn't about him" 😂 [/B]
McClane has more action per minute than Bauer does; by a considerable factor too. Unless you count Bauer having tender moments with his wh0re wife, retarded (but hot) daughter and general non-action of the show "epic feattery". "Bauer drove back to the CTU!" *EPIC FEAT*
Because you consistently try to downplay McClane as some means to make Bauer look better; I will correct your McLies.
McClane has more action per minute than Bauer does; by a considerable factor too.
So that's 276 kills to......
Unless you count Bauer having tender moments with his wh0re wife, retarded (but hot) daughter
Not particularly. I prefer to count the moments such as when Jack, fresh off 20 months of torture, jumpkicks a suicide bomber out of a moving subway
and general non-action of the show
Because Bauer taking on entire terrorist compounds is definitely "non-action" 😂
"Bauer drove back to the CTU!"
"Where he proceeded to kick even more ass"
Because you consistently try to downplay McClane as some means to make Bauer look better; I will correct your McLies.
Hey, if you have proof that McClane's adversaries aren't amateur-hour wannabe-terrorists, and are actual international threats, like the ones Bauer takes on during a near-hourly basis, then i'd be glad to see it.
Originally posted by Lestov16Hey, if you have proof that McClane's adversaries aren't amateur-hour wannabe-terrorists, and are actual international threats, like the ones Bauer takes on during a near-hourly basis, then i'd be glad to see it.
MORE Downplay of McClane...?
Well you may go on ignoring these points or not:
DH1: Well if the bonds had been stolen by Gruber's international ring of operatives, who knows what their next move would have been, he'd have had enough to have bought a small army fund further terrorism and violence to get more cash.. so good job McClane 'McClaned' him.
DH2: Look at the grief since 9/11...!! If the bad guys had all those planes 'dropping on the whitehouse lawn' as was mentioned as going to occur, what sort of damage/deathtoll/negative effect internationally would that have had? And again: If this lot had been successfull and gone away and done it again in other states or countries... that could have affected the world.
Plus Esparonza was a deposed dictator/massive drug dealer that would have been free to run amock polluting and destroying the lives of millions especially in south america.
So Mcclane bringing dead-scumbag-stats up by like 20 that movie was justified.
DH 3: The collapse of wall street/robbery of the gold which was the equivalent of fort knox could have paralysed America economically and altered the world in domino effects. Again....would the badguys when that rich be findable and punishable after that? When they buy a small country you'd have to mount a whole war to get the gold rescued (that which wouldnt yet have been melted down and distributed) So again: Huge McVictory
Die Hard 4: McClane saves the east coast from glowing for 1,000 years and everyone losing all bank and other records and the collapse of trade, money and other risks that would again have rippled on a global economic scale.
McClane doesn't have to kill everyone. Just The RIGHT ones. 🙂