Mara Jade vs. Darth Sidious

Originally posted by Master_Galen
Sidious Force lightning is purple, but is clearly Force lightning. Your point?

Exactly! 😛

Ares needs to quit snuffing paint.

Originally posted by Existentialist
There have been color variants in Force lightning across the mythos. Blue, purple, green, and red. It's still the same animal.

I'd agree. Bring up the color of the lightning is irrelevant.

But if Battlemaster wishes to use that as an argument I'm absolutely fine with it.

Originally posted by Master_Galen
Sidious Force lightning is purple, but is clearly Force lightning. Your point?

I wasn't the one who initially brought up the point.

If "emerald lightning" (another stupid, stupid name) is the designation given to the power wielded by Luke at the end of The Unifying Force, it was said to generate "green sparks" that made a Yuuzhan Vong Slayer convulse and topple like a tree. The text neglects to mention anything being cast from Luke's fingertips like traditional lightning, leaving room open for the idea that they are separate techniques.

Originally posted by ares834
Except it's explicitly said in The Jedi Path that EL is related to Force lightning and is therefore not the same power.

This is because Plo Koon adapted Force lighting into a light sided Jedi version and renamed it Electric Judgement.

Originally posted by Battlemaster
Duh, and guess what? The guy lives - except he's incapacitated. Just like what Jacen did later on.

Yeah. Ok? Then the Dark Reaper uses the same power as Nihilus then as it drains its victims of their force energy.

Originally posted by Battlemaster
Okay, and sometimes Sith Lightning is blue.

And sometimes it's white.

What's your point?

You were the one who initially brought up colors to differentiate between lightning. I was just following your lead.

ares834
Yeah. Ok? Then the Dark Reaper uses the same power as Nihilus then as it drains its victims of there force energy.

Ouch. Well played. 😂

Not all lightning is the same.

Doesn't red lightning signify Force Drain for instance?

In any case, Electric Judgement/Emerald Lightning both incapacitate their enemies - not kill them.

Sith/Force Lightning on the other hand that can be blue/white/purple, etc - kills it's enemies, siphoning off lifeforce.

So, we have the Lightside variation - One ability with the same effect and a couple colors

And we have the Dark side ability - One ability with the same effect and a couple different colors.

Established Star Wars Canon thus far sees it that way.

So stop huffing paint. 😛

Originally posted by Nephthys
Doesn't red lightning signify Force Drain?

It does in gameplay (Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy). Otherwise, I've only ever seen it wielded by the Son from the Mortis Trilogy. It should be noted, though, that Sith lightning is said to drain the life from its opponents.

Originally posted by ares834
Yeah. Ok? Then the Dark Reaper uses the same power as Nihilus then as it drains its victims of their force energy.
You were the one who initially brought up colors to differentiate between lightning. I was just following your lead.

Read my message to you above - and throw away your paint-flakes. 😛

Originally posted by Existentialist
It does in gameplay (Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy). Otherwise, I've only ever seen it wielded by the Son from the Mortis Trilogy. It should be noted, though, that Sith lightning is said to drain the life from its opponents.

It siphons it off - but it doesn't absorb it.

Originally posted by Battlemaster
It siphons it off - but it doesn't absorb it.

I'm aware.

Originally posted by Battlemaster
So, we have the Lightside variation - One ability with the same effect and a couple colors

And we have the Dark side ability - One ability with the same effect and a couple different colors.

I agree, it is like the Mind trick, you can use it like the Jedi to influence minds or like the Sith to control minds. At the end of the day the ability is still Mind trick.

Originally posted by ares834
Han Solo does not wear a Bloodstripe on his pants - it just looks like a bloodstripe.
It is really an Imperial logo.

In any case, Electric Judgement/Emerald Lightning incapacitate their enemies - not kill them.

Sith/Force Lightning on the other hand that can be blue/white/purple, etc - kills it's enemies, siphoning off lifeforce.

So, we have the Lightside variation - One ability with the same effect and a couple colors

And we have the Dark side ability - One ability with the same effect and a couple different colors.

Established Star Wars Canon thus far sees it that way.

So stop huffing paint. 😛

Originally posted by Master_Galen
I agree, it is like the Mind trick, you can use it like the Jedi to influence minds or like the Sith to control minds. At the end of the day the ability is still Mind trick.

Right - Lightside variation is One ability with a few visual colors

And the Darkside variation is One ability with a few visual colors

Established common knowledge understands these facts

Originally posted by Battlemaster
Established common knowledge understands these facts

Ah, but does ares?

Originally posted by Master_Galen
Ah, but does ares?

I'm worried for his Paint-Huffing addiction!

It's giving him Brain-Damage!!

😛

(He'll understand after a while)

Originally posted by Existentialist
Dear God, it's patently obvious from the text that "electric judgment" (stupid, stupid name) is Force lightning as wielded by Jedi and permissible for light side use. It stems from a sense of justice rather than a desire to inflict harm. Are they exactly the same? Perhaps not. Are they completely separate? No. It's the difference between a katana and a cutlass. At the end of the day, they're both swords. The fact that Plo Koon calls it Force lightning should end the argument.

Don't confuse Ares!😛

Poor kid has had enough on his plate today..

Spoiler:
What I just quoted is what ares was arguing from the beginning. He says "electric judgment" is Force lightning, which is what Plo Koon says and is, in turn, what I'm saying.