Lol and aizen uses his reatsu to unleash his shikai's ability. Not to insert reatsu into others where was that stated?
Also aizen is a very confident and cocky individual the reason he told unohana about his shikai is because he believes kyoka cannot be broken. "My kyoka suigetsu's complete hypnosis is absolutely flawless."
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Aizen's strongest attack we've seen is only half the size of Naruto's current Biju Dama, then. He won't be able to take out Madara's dozens of Chibaku Tensei.
Them meteors didnt even kill tsuchikage they def wont kill aizen. Not to mention kenny chops meteors in half it isnt far fet
Madaras best offense would be deep poison forest emergence(even tho i think the hogyoku would give aizen an immunity to it), final susanoo, limbo or some type of wood sealing
Those meteors were of much smaller scale than the ones created in the recent chapters.
Not only that, but a singular meteor would have killed Gaara, Naruto, the Tsuchikage, and hundreds of ninja if it weren't for the Tsuchikage's ability to drastically decrease the weight of rock.
As a third point, Madara isn't just dropping two here. He's dropping dozens of Chibaku Tensei on Aizen, here. And considering these Chibaku Tensei are far larger than Pain's per Naruto, Aizen won't be able to wipe them out with his sword. I mean, Ichigo wiping out that immensely smaller mountain with his blade was an indicator of his superiority to Aizen. How is Aizen going to deal with dozens of meteors that are at least over five times that size?
Not only that, but none of Aizen's energy-based attacks would have any effects on Madara anyhow, considering he can absorb them with the Rinnegan. And again, Aizen can't even sense Madara on the Limbo dimension, so how is he supposed to counter?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Those meteors were of much smaller scale than the ones created in the recent chapters.Not only that, but a singular meteor would have killed Gaara, Naruto, the Tsuchikage, and hundreds of ninja if it weren't for the Tsuchikage's ability to drastically decrease the weight of rock.
As a third point, Madara isn't just dropping two here. He's dropping dozens of Chibaku Tensei on Aizen, here. And considering these Chibaku Tensei are far larger than Pain's per Naruto, Aizen won't be able to wipe them out with his sword. I mean, Ichigo wiping out that immensely smaller mountain with his blade was an indicator of his superiority to Aizen. How is Aizen going to deal with dozens of meteors that are at least over five times that size?
Not only that, but none of Aizen's energy-based attacks would have any effects on Madara anyhow, considering he can absorb them with the Rinnegan. And again, Aizen can't even sense Madara on the Limbo dimension, so how is he supposed to counter?
He still took two meteors to the face and lived no matter how you slice it. Mass and weight are not the same. Tsuchikage didnt change the size of the meteor only its weight. A baseball may be very light but if you get hit in the face with it your skull is still gonna fracture maybe even crack. Tsuchikage still should have died. Aizen has a higher level of naturally durability than basically all naruto characters barring them using things like susanoo, and chakra cloaks.... Not to mention kyoka could have madara's meteors missing
Also madara is weak against physical attacks which is something bleach characters accel at also.
I do.
His Perfect Susanoo has greater destructive power than Aizen, his Wood Style constructs are massive and absorb Reiatsu, his Sage Mode allots him sensory powers along with his precognitive Sharingan, his own regeneration is comparable to Aizen's, his strength is enough to kick around Tailed Beasts, and he has the Limbo which has no defense Aizen is capable of.
Not saying Aizen won't win, but Madara has a very good chance even without the power of the six paths.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I do.His Perfect Susanoo has greater destructive power than Aizen, his Wood Style constructs are massive and absorb Reiatsu, his Sage Mode allots him sensory powers along with his precognitive Sharingan, his own regeneration is comparable to Aizen's, his strength is enough to kick around Tailed Beasts, and he has the Limbo which has no defense Aizen is capable of.
Not saying Aizen won't win, but Madara has a very good chance even without the power of the six paths.
Madara def has more destructive capability but it takes more than that to win fights. Especially against aizen because hes taken out ppl with higher dc than him before.
I dont think edo madara has limbo or sage mode lol. Which def is a threat to aizen.
Madara has been fooled by clone so idt the sharingan would be of much help considering aizen has kyoka and is faster than madara.
Idk i feel like kidos like kuroshitsugi and all the bakudo aizen knows is enough to beat edo madara. he could even put madara in the garganta and leave him there since madara doesnt have kamui hed be stuck for all eternity. Lol thats a possibility.
but once sage mode is put in the pic aizen loses because at that stage he has all regen and god like traits of hogyoku aizen plus a higher destructive capacity.
Originally posted by yungz22
There is no similarity rule where did you get that from.
Common sense.
The same way that 5+5 equals the same as 2x5. This is a forum. You have to make assumptions with the best of your knowledge to compare things. Again, if you don't think that's fair, then Aizen can't use kyoka because Madara doesn't have reiatsu.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Common sense.The same way that 5+5 equals the same as 2x5. This is a forum. You have to make assumptions with the best of your knowledge to compare things. Again, if you don't think that's fair, then Aizen can't use kyoka because Madara doesn't have reiatsu.
There is an actual energy equivalence rule if you put it in google you will see all the different types of vs forums that use it. Sad to say the same cant be said about your made up similarity rule which isnt logical at all.
So its not an actual rule but in fact something you made up yourself. It actually makes no sense if you think about it
just because two things are similar doesnt mean they are the same. A lion and a tiger are similar but they are not the same both do things differenly and evolved different attributes they even have different genetic coding. Car and a truck are similar in the fact that they are automobile but both work differently and do different things they arent the same. Monkeys and humans are similar but obviously we are not the same. Genjutsu,ninjutsu,taijutsu are all jutsu but they are not the same. Sharingan and byakugan are similar but also obviously not the same. Sasuke and itachi both have sharingan but they do not have the same eyes.Twins are similar but not the same. The list of examples could go on forever.
Even your example is wrong yes both 5+5 and 2x5 equal 10. But the two methods are far from the same.Addition and multiplication both work in totally different ways. 1+1=2 but 1x1=1
1 and 2 are not the same.
genjutsu and kyoka both are illusionary but the methods of both techniques working are not the same.
Similar does not equal same in any kind of sense.
Originally posted by yungz22
There is an actual energy equivalence rule if you put it in google you will see all the different types of vs forums that use it. Sad to say the same cant be said about your made up similarity rule which isnt logical at all.So its not an actual rule but in fact something you made up yourself. It actually makes no sense if you think about it
just because two things are similar doesnt mean they are the same. A lion and a tiger are similar but they are not the same both do things differenly and evolved different attributes they even have different genetic coding. Car and a truck are similar in the fact that they are automobile but both work differently and do different things they arent the same. Monkeys and humans are similar but obviously we are not the same. Genjutsu,ninjutsu,taijutsu are all jutsu but they are not the same. Sharingan and byakugan are similar but also obviously not the same. Sasuke and itachi both have sharingan but they do not have the same eyes.Twins are similar but not the same. The list of examples could go on forever.
Even your example is wrong yes both 5+5 and 2x5 equal 10. But the two methods are far from the same.Addition and multiplication both work in totally different ways. 1+1=2 but 1x1=1
1 and 2 are not the same.genjutsu and kyoka both are illusionary but the methods of both techniques working are not the same.
Similar does not equal same in any kind of sense.
Skimming through your unfathomably stupid post, I can tell you're repeating your questions to me that I've answered countless times.
Instead, answer mine. Either show me something saying that Aizen's shikai doesn't use reiatsu, or stop making these retarded accusations. Btw, you just acknowledged the equivalency rule, meaning that since there's no explanation of how Aizen's shikai works, it's similarity to genjutsu makes it demonstrably the SAME THING.
Just stop replying if you're going to keep droning about the same garbage.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Skimming through your unfathomably stupid post, I can tell you're repeating your questions to me that I've answered countless times.Instead, answer mine. Either show me something saying that Aizen's shikai doesn't use reiatsu, or stop making these retarded accusations. Btw, you just acknowledged the equivalency rule, meaning that since there's no explanation of how Aizen's shikai works, it's similarity to genjutsu makes it demonstrably the SAME THING.
Just stop replying if you're going to keep droning about the same garbage.
You literally argue yourself into circles first you say were supposed to make assumptions about things the you say we have to have evidence which one is more important?
You didnt even read what i said i didnt even ask any questions.
Also ive made no assumptions im going by exact words stated about both techniques in both manga.
And again your logic goes both ways because you have yet to show any evidence that aizen does what YOU assume it does. We have more evidence than you because chasedown showed exact words stated by aizen himself from the source material.
Read my earlier post which you so quickly looked over and you will see why your made up similarity rule doesnt work.