Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Yeah I'm ignoring the gameplay aspect because most of the instance of it not seeming like an army at the end is engine limitations. Lorewise, all the really big things outside of the dragon in the snow and possibly flementh he had a lot of help and resources.I focus specifically on the story and world because we are talking about high versus low fantasy and all. So assumed it would be most appropriate to consider the changes in in universe perception from talented knight who led a unified front against a powerful enemy to one man army solving everything alone.
I agree to an extent when you take in the entire scope of what happened. Much like Shepard in ME3 (which has far too many parallels for my liking), you're more focused on bringing people together than being the literal "Superman" of the story.
It's a story about Ferelden, not necessarily the Warden himself (or herself, if you prefer).
With gameplay though, yeesh. The dude is ****ing Captain America at times.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
So basically it's like Mass Effect Genesis.
Bingo. But with a ton more options.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I agree to an extent when you take in the entire scope of what happened. Much like Shepard in ME3 (which has far too many parallels for my liking), you're more focused on bringing people together than being the literal "Superman" of the story.It's a story about Ferelden, not necessarily the Warden himself (or herself, if you prefer).
With gameplay though, yeesh. The dude is ****ing Captain America at times.
Originally posted by Nephthys
All of the mages throwing flame storms and ripping peoples blood out suggests its closer to high fantasy to me.
I don't know why it does, as there is no statute in low fantasy that prohibits characters from being powerful. Again, I point to Game of Thrones as an example.
In GoT only a few people can use magic, and in those cases its more subtle, low-key and refined than pillars of fire and ice or shooting lightning from their hands. Dragon Age has mages running around with staffs, wearing robes and throwing down magic all over dudes. As well as Templars, ents, liches and other things like that.
Originally posted by NephthysYou mean like setting an entire fleet of ships on green fire? Or summoning ghost-things that wander the country side and assassinate people? Or the White-Walkers? Dragons? 8 foot tall supermen?
In GoT only a few people can use magic, and in those cases its more subtle, low-key and refined than pillars of fire and ice or shooting lightning from their hands. Dragon Age has mages running around with staffs, wearing robes and throwing down magic all over dudes. As well as Templars, ents, liches and other things like that.
Game of Thrones has its fair share of fantastical fantasy elements. It might not have them on the same scale as Dragon Age, but so what? There is no tenet within Low Fantasy that states that wizards can't walk around in robes or carry staffs or shoot fireballs at people. By comparison, Lord of the Rings magic is vastly more subtle than even Game of Throne's (discounting the Silmarillion, which is by design supposed to highlight what the World was like in its "golden age"😉, with the culmination of the Wizards' powers being pushing each other, lighting their staffs on fire and occasionally shooting a lightning bolt, yet Lord of the Rings is considered high fantasy.
So I'm not sure what metric you're using to classify Dragon Age as high fantasy. Especially not when you consider that the majority of mages are barely powerful enough to be a threat to your average soldier, simply existing as a Mage gives you a 50/50 chance of spontaneously exploding and having your soul taken over by a demon, and almost all of the mages in the world are actively oppressed on a daily basis by an organization of dudes armed with nothing but swords and shields, who regularly drag mages of all ages into backrooms and lobotomize them for the lulz. That doesn't sound like a High Fantasy society to me.
Yup, and they're also supposed to have some kind of training that allows them to resist magical attacks.
But when have we ever seen this be used to any practical degree in the lore? I've yet to see a Templar casually walk through a fireball, for example (though DA2 does show the weaker mages' magic bounce off of shields).
Originally posted by Nephthys
In GoT only a few people can use magic, and in those cases its more subtle, low-key and refined than pillars of fire and ice or shooting lightning from their hands. Dragon Age has mages running around with staffs, wearing robes and throwing down magic all over dudes. As well as Templars, ents, liches and other things like that.
Definitely. Furthermore, magic is central to the main plot of each DA game. On a different note, GoT isn't even low fantasy; it may have started that way but magic has slowly become more central to the story.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Especially not when you consider that the majority of mages arebarely powerful enough to be a threat to your average soldier,simply existing as a Mage gives you a 50/50 chance of spontaneously exploding and having your soul taken over by a demon, and almost all of the mages in the world are actively oppressed on a daily basis by an organization of dudes armed with nothing but swords and shields, who regularly drag mages of all ages into backrooms and lobotomize them for the lulz. That doesn't sound like a High Fantasy society to me.
Wheel of Time, which is pretty much as high of fantasy as you can get, has very similar plotpoints to all of this (save for the thing I crossed out).
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Yup, and they're also supposed to have some kind of training that allows them to resist magical attacks.But when have we ever seen this be used to any practical degree in the lore? I've yet to see a Templar casually walk through a fireball, for example (though DA2 does show the weaker mages' magic bounce off of shields).
The Templar you find in the Mage Tower has erected a force field through sheer faith. Powerful enough to keep every demon and darkspawn in the tower from getting closer than 6 feet to him.