Originally posted by Nemesis X
Any DLC out on Day 1 though isn't really DLC unless you're saying that short for disc locked content. I'm just glad Bioware will be delivering everybody onto the retail upon release this time and not making us spend extra unless we want to buy any special editions. EA is learning.
it can be day one dlc and not be on-disk. while I don't agree with all dlc practices, saying that it can't possibly be actual dlc is a little much, tbh.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Yeah, Bioware does do pretty good DLC. I enjoyed all of ME3 and ME2 DLC.
i'm playing the ME3 dlc right now, and I've been very impressed so far. 2's was excellent, yeah.
Originally posted by -Pr-
it can be day one dlc and not be on-disk. while I don't agree with all dlc practices, saying that it can't possibly be actual dlc is a little much, tbh.
Sure if you ignore the fact Bioware is owned by EA 😐
I'm playing the ME3 dlc right now, and I've been very impressed so far. 2's was excellent, yeah.
I only meant to use Javik as an example being the victim of a greedy publishing giant's string pulling. I didn't mean to derail the thread here.
Bioware does good with DLC, and since this is Dragon Age, focusing on DA-centric DLC only further proves that point, as well as the fact that they can release multiple strong DLC packs.
DA😮
Golems of Amgarrak
Stone Prisoner
Warden's Keep
Return To Ostagar
Leliana's Song
The Darkspawn Chronicles
Witch Hunt
And all the misc DLC like the Blood Dragon Armor(which transferred over to ME2) and the Feast Day packs.
Let's not forget about the "Awakening" expansion.
DA2
Exiled Prince
Legacy
Black Emporium
Mark of the Assassin
And all the ones mentioned for ME as well.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Sure if you ignore the fact Bioware is owned by EA 😐
Doesn't mean anything.
Are EA greedy? Sure. Look at how much the DLC for ME 3 cost me in total: €55 (euro) for Leviathan, Omega, Citadel, From Ashes, 2 weapon packs and an appearance pack. I'm glad I didn't buy it all at once. That's the price of a damned game. Sure, Omega was great and From Ashes added enough to be enjoyable, but damn, that's the price of a game over here.
Was making dlc that contained a full-blown character, someone who, while not integral to the plot, was in fact integral to the lore, a good idea? God no. Nor was making him day-one dlc.
But they flat out said that all that was on the disc was the framework so he would work within the game; just like Kasumi was in 2.
People who hacked it broke their game. The download was still needed.
I'm not saying EA isn't a bunch of *****. They are. From Dead Space 3, Dragon Age 2 and Sim City to things like Syndicate... And don't even get me on rushing out SWTOR. They're a bunch of *****, like I said.
Javik still wasn't some Capcom-esque "all on the disc" dlc though.
shrug
Originally posted by Smasandian
All companies are bad. There is no difference between Activision, EA, Ubisoft and others.If EA released Medal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes, the backlash would of been insane. But Konami did, it did not get nearly as much shit as it could.
That's funny, because I've seen Ground Zeroes and Konami get plenty of shit, to the point they had to reduce the original price of the game. It also isn't nearly as bad as some of the shit EA has pulled, like Sim City.
And no, not all companies are the same.
Ea has done shitty stuff, not nearly as evil as some would claim but yeah shitty stuff. But they've done a lot to fix it now while also supporting good things. The fact that they are one of the two big companies to do digital refunds on games even after you've started to play them is a major step in their image imo. Especially since refunds are something steam still scoffs at
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
That's funny, because I've seen Ground Zeroes and Konami get plenty of shit, to the point they had to reduce the original price of the game. It also isn't nearly as bad as some of the shit EA has pulled, like Sim City.And no, not all companies are the same.
Not nearly as much as EA would of gotten if they released like that.
Are you kidding me? They released a 2 hour demo (that would of been a demo 5 years ago) and they charged 30 bucks for it. Just as bad Sim City.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Not nearly as much as EA would of gotten if they released like that.Are you kidding me? They released a 2 hour demo (that would of been a demo 5 years ago) and they charged 30 bucks for it. Just as bad Sim City.
And that two hour demo is still a million times better then the trash that is SimCity 5.
Each company is bad. EA, Konami, Ubisoft etc.
While I would argue that it's just different degrees of bad, EA is still ahead of almost everyone else in the "greedy ****s" stakes.
Maybe Activision is just as bad, but EA is ahead of the pack for me, considering how much they've ****ed with in years gone by.
I'm not saying they don't make good games; they do. But as a business that looks after its customers? Yeah, not great.