Dragon Age 3

Bioware games are never about player freedom. If you expect that then you never going to like them.

Comparing Bioware games to Bethesda is not right. Both companies try to do something completely different with their franchises.

One is about story and experience. The other is about content, openness and character creating. Both do separate things.

I think criticism about Bioware games is because people call them RPG's. Get rid of that label and this wouldn't be an issue. Do people complain that Gears of War is not open? Nope. Why? Because it's an action game.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Bioware games are never about player freedom. If you expect that then you never going to like them.

Comparing Bioware games to Bethesda is not right. Both companies try to do something completely different with their franchises.

One is about story and experience. The other is about content, openness and character creating. Both do separate things.

I think criticism about Bioware games is because people call them RPG's. Get rid of that label and this wouldn't be an issue. Do people complain that Gears of War is not open? Nope. Why? Because it's an action game.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Bioware games are never about player freedom. If you expect that then you never going to like them.

Comparing Bioware games to Bethesda is not right. Both companies try to do something completely different with their franchises.

One is about story and experience. The other is about content, openness and character creating. Both do separate things.

I think criticism about Bioware games is because people call them RPG's. Get rid of that label and this wouldn't be an issue. Do people complain that Gears of War is not open? Nope. Why? Because it's an action game.

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I also think it has to do with people having a sometimes rather small definition of what a RPG is. I mean Witcher 1 or 2 wasn't exactly open either, yet people have no problem calling them a RPG, even though you have as much freedom there (in terms of roaming) as you do in Dragon Age, actually I'll argue for more openness in Dragon Age 1 then in Witcher (personal opinion). But the RPG genre is, and always have been, a mixed breed of a variaties of genres, and people need to learn to accept that. Just to mention a few we have MMORPG, Action RPG, Tactical RPG, Strategi RPG. It's a hybrid genre.

I would also become absurdly bored if every RPG I bought was a mirror of Elder Scrolls.

I would be too.

In fact, I wish Bethesda learned a few things from Bioware about character development and how to create very interesting story lines.

You right, RPG is a hybrid genre. It is what it is.

Originally posted by Based
Mass Effect 1 was great even if the environments got bland and reused. But the attempt was there, especially in the Citadel. Then it just get progressively worse as technology improves..

The Citadel keeps shrinking down in size and the possibility of exploration also decreases. You could go to any planet and land in ME1. You can go to like 3 planets in ME2 and land. You can go to like 1 planet during a specific arc and land in ME3 then you lose access.

I'm not going to bust them on KOTOR, but yeah KOTOR was pretty bad in their exploration and scale of environments. But that's a minor nitpick on an otherwise great game.

Due to narrative concerns BioWare seems to abhor player freedom. In some cases obviously BioWare needs to have a hard stance but at times it's ridiculous like in DA2.

Skyrim was a much, much, much greater hit not because it's story trumped DA, but it offers freedom and customization coupled with a decent story. Endless content too.

Obviously trying to be Skyrim would fail but they need to accept that actually devolving on this aspect is only hurting them. WHich I think they have somewhat accepted especially since they've mentioned being akin to Skyrim especially since it kicked their ass.

I think you honestly have the wrong expectations from Dragon Age 3, personally.

It shouldn't want to be like Skyrim, imo.

So the lady in the videos that was serving as the team's mage is Vivienne, an Orlesian that's pro-circle, and until things went to hell she was next in line to be first enchanter at one of the orlesian circles. Looking forward to interacting with her, though I can see myself romancing Cassandra first.

Here's a new trailer showing off the environments:

YouTube video

Have to say they look pretty good. Wish they'd give us a release date too. By Andraste is that Fall tease irritating.

At least the graphics look pretty stellar. It should make the atmosphere of the game top notch.

I heard rumours from around the Internet that the gameplay will be similar to DA: Origins and would be more strategic than Origins. We will see.

Hopefully they build on the stuff we've already seen; the combat system looked pretty nice before, imo.

After the 2nd game, I don't think I'll be getting 3 until I see the game play, and read the reviews.

You didn't see the Alpha gameplay footage?

Originally posted by Stoic
After the 2nd game, I don't think I'll be getting 3 until I see the game play, and read the reviews.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I almost guarantee it will be better.

I sure hope so friend, because I was stoked at the thought of 2 only to be deflated 2 hours in.

2 gets a lot of flak, but for me, it's a really good game. Sure, it has its issues, and it is very different from the first game, but I still think it's a worthy entry in the series.

Everything I've seen about the third one looks promising, imo. I may even preorder it, tbh.

Originally posted by KingD19
You didn't see the Alpha gameplay footage?

Sorry man, I missed your post the first time around. Didn't think I'd come back to this thread until the game came out Yep I saw the footage, but graphics, and game play are unfortunately two different things. I'm a Bethesda junkie, and even though you can't really compare the games pound for pound, you can compare replay value.

I hope you're not hoping it's too much like Skyrim. I'm worried enough about that already, tbh.

Fallout, now, that's different.

You can't compare replay value. Replay values depends on what the player likes.

Some people like to play Skyrim because it's massively huge. Some people like playing the same game 5 times in a row.

Originally posted by Smasandian
You can't compare replay value. Replay values depends on what the player likes.

Some people like to play Skyrim because it's massively huge. Some people like playing the same game 5 times in a row.

That's true.

Bioware is not gonna add any downloadable companions in Inquisition.

Thank god because if they were to repeat that Javik incident, I would've just lost it.

Javik... Yeah. Having someone so integral to the lore that was ALSO a party member in a game with much less selection than the previous one, was a really bad move.

I like the other DLC for 3, but that... Yeah.

I'm sure Inquisition will get some good dlc though. I think Bioware is usually solid with actual content.