Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have you read the scans I posted?
I'd been trying to find some of the scans I was talking about.
I read the one about Pixie, though, putting up those portals against Kuurth (Juggernaut)?
Got to admit THAT probably would have taken Hulk out.
Or, at the least BFR'd him, and, like you said, "ended World War Hulk in one panel".
Originally posted by bluewaterriderPrimes reserves are vast more so than Supermans and regular Kryptonians thats why the sun eater was kept there if he was completely dry why would they keep such a dangerous thing on Mogo.
Prime only has powers in yellow sunlight. It wasn't "constantly sapping" energy as you claim; there was no superenergy TO sap.
Prime's power was more or less exhausted on Mogo.What you're telling me here doesn't make sense either.
Bart says he spent several YEARS there.
What, they were chasing him around for months at a time there?
Originally posted by iceman24567
Thor isn't looking to hot as of late either way he isn't beating Prime on his own. Matter of fact Primes vast speed advantage would be Thors downfall
Show me where, unless speed is used on HIM first Prime resorts to speed blitzing and flurrying people as you're suggesting.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Primes reserves are vast more so than Supermans and regular Kryptonians thats why the sun eater was kept there if he was completely dry why would they keep such a dangerous thing on Mogo.
I never said they were chasing him they were keeping him there though as alt Flash said he was "too strong" Bart also said he was "too fast"
Why keep such a dangerous thing on Mogo?
Why have it roaming free to devour stuff and kill people in the rest of the Universe? Superman himself once owned a sun-eater in one of these versions of the comic (one of Morrison's, if I remember correctly).
Where better to keep a dangerous "animal" than in a "zoo" with keepers and watchers?
As for the reserves being more vast?
Not supported by the comics. How do you explain Prime's heat vision petering out when he was trying to kill Superman at the conclusion of Infinite Crisis #7 if that's the case? How do you explain Superman being strong enough to knock him out?
Why did they feel the need to take that stupid SUIT off of Prime?
Why was it on him to begin with?
I'd appreciate your showing me Bart's "too strong" or "too fast" comments in relation to SBP escaping the speed force. I've been looking through my collection and have not found it yet.
Originally posted by bluewaterriderI never said anything about him actually blitzing Thor now did i? I did say his vast speed advantage would be Thors downfall for example hand speed or maybe the fact that Prime will be the one to throw the first punch because you know he faster 😬. Show me where i said he would blitz Thor?
Show me where, unless speed is used on [B]HIM first Prime resorts to speed blitzing and flurrying people as you're suggesting. [/B]
Originally posted by bluewaterriderComics show his reserved to be vast more than not. Various times heroes have tried to sap and drain him but he's still able to fight at high levels Sinestro wars before the sun hit him he burned straight threw Superman. Legion of three worlds while being sapped and drained by various heroes he was still fighting at optimum levels. The suit is obviously meant to counter weakness exploitation as well as keep him in top form its not needed for him to fight at above Superman levels. You can find it yourself if not too bad.
Why keep such a dangerous thing on Mogo?
Why have it roaming free to devour stuff and kill people in the rest of the Universe? Superman himself once owned a sun-eater in one of these versions of the comic (one of Morrison's, if I remember correctly).
Where better to keep a dangerous "animal" than in a "zoo" with keepers and watchers?As for the reserves being more vast?
Not supported by the comics. How do you explain Prime's heat vision petering out when he was trying to kill Superman at the conclusion of Infinite Crisis #7 if that's the case? How do you explain Superman being strong enough to knock him out?
Why did they feel the need to take that stupid SUIT off of Prime?
Why was it on him to begin with?I'd appreciate your showing me Bart's "too strong" or "too fast" comments in relation to SBP escaping the speed force. I've been looking through my collection and have not found it yet.
Originally posted by iceman24567
I never said anything about him actually blitzing Thor now did I? I did say his vast speed advantage would be Thors downfall for example hand speed or maybe the fact that Prime will be the one to throw the first punch because you know he faster 😬. Show me where i said he would blitz Thor?
If he's not going to blitz him, what are you proposing?
A one-punch knockout?
If you think Prime is just going to be wailing on Thor, what exactly are you suggesting the rest of his teammates will be doing in the meanwhile?
Originally posted by bluewaterriderIt doesn't have to be a knock out his initial punch could very well drop him and from there its pretty much Primes fight to lose. The Prime vs Thor post wasn't directed at you in the first place. Notice how i said Thor isn't beating him on his OWN.
If he's not going to blitz him, what are you proposing?
A one-punch knockout?If you think Prime is just going to be wailing on Thor, what exactly are you suggesting the rest of his teammates will be doing in the meanwhile?
Originally posted by TheGodKillerLegion reappeared in AVX # 5 . Dunno if he died again , but he was there along with Xavier , and they both "felt" the Phoenix getting closer to Earth .
[QUOTE=14008511]Originally posted by bluewaterrider
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Legion, Xavier's son, is and has been dead for awhile now.
Edit : Here's the scan :
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Originally posted by iceman24567
Comics show his reserved to be vast more than not. Various times heroes have tried to sap and drain him but he's still able to fight at high levels Sinestro wars before the sun hit him he burned straight threw Superman. Legion of three worlds while being sapped and drained by various heroes he was still fighting at optimum levels. The suit is obviously meant to counter weakness exploitation as well as keep him in top form its not needed for him to fight at above Superman levels. You can find it yourself if not too bad.
I don't think you're following the basic logic of your side.
It's not worth checking who said this, though I think it was D.S., but one of the premises was that, GIVEN Prime can charge to full power with just a bit of yellow sunlight on his fingertips or whatever, nothing would be gained if Red Hulk did indeed drain his reserves. For Prime's still in sunlight in that case, he would simply charge to full power from that exposure anew.
It's not that he has such vast reserves; it's that such a little amount of exposure gives him such great power, just as it did for other pre-Crisis Kryptonians. It's like trying draw all the power out of a laptop while it's plugged into a wall socket. I've got this nifty little external plug-in cooler underneath mine, for instance. The laptop supplies the power for the fans that run it. Were I to unplug my laptop, the power would drain from the battery, and all the faster for the cooler plugged in draining more than normal. You could see the drop over a relatively short period of time in this little power indicator window near my time display.
If I keep my laptop plugged in, however, the fact that my cooler is taking power from the computer seems to make almost no difference.
It reads 100% now; it will be reading the same an hour from now if keep typing here. The endless supply of outside energy prevents the drain from discernibly affecting it. Same with Prime at high noon, suit or no.
And the basic logic of that I largely agree with.
Only reason I was disputing that was that the comics that actually feature pre-Crisis Kryptonians getting energy drained by people, DON'T usually feature them being fine due to continual sun exposure.
Instead they generally get weak for a time, though there's no particular reason they should going purely by a pure sun activation model.
Of course, writers use a combination of theories to explain whatever they've decided should be featured in their stories.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Prime does have vast reserves though if you want to use the one time he was flown threw a red sun as his average you would be low balling. Sadly photobucket is still down 😬
I seldom if ever use Photobucket anymore. Found KMC's own image host service to be more reliable than anything else I've tried.
Promised someone that I would give Photobucket a try and did, and perhaps will even convert some of my more popular scans to Photobucket links, but that will be some time in the future.
As I mentioned before, I know of exactly ONE instance where Superboy Prime was able to resist red sun energy. That was way back in his debut back in the 1980s, before Infinite Crisis, long before anyone had him in mind for a villain. But that wasn't due to having vast reserves. Or at least it wasn't stated that way.
He hasn't been portrayed, sans that stupid-looking suit, as resistant to Red Sun energy since that time; not to my knowledge.
I'll be interested to see what you're planning to show me.
I don't think I voted in this thread...how could I have missed this.
Anyways, Hulk and Prime goes at it while the others think of a plan to permanently eliminate Prime. With Hulk ever so loving increasing strength and durability, he can make the fight last for a good amount of time for the team to strategize something.