Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
This is what I've been saying the whole time. In RAW sabers Kenobi is superior to the Maul bros. Throw in TK however and we have a whole different ball game.
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I'll concede that he defeated the duo by simply outclassing them in Sabers.
But individually he ONLY defeated Opress. Not Maul.
Originally posted by Nephthys
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Kenobi would defeat Maul in a raw sabers battle. In their recent battle Kenobi has been landing in kicks and physical blows, while Maul has been able to land nothing.
The only time Maul has ever been able to land in a blow/corner him is via the force.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Kenobi would defeat Maul in a raw sabers battle. In their recent battle Kenobi has been landing in kicks and physical blows, while Maul has been able to land nothing.
The only time Maul has ever been able to land in a blow/corner him is via the force.
True.
But that was a proper smack down Maul gave Kenobi with the Force.
Whilst I agree with you Kenobi was clearly superior in Sabers, I still think even in a Sabers only battle it would not be an easy smack down by any means.
Maul's shown himself to be the "skilled beast" Dooku described him as being in the ROTS novel.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
True.But that was a proper smack down Maul gave Kenobi with the Force.
Whilst I agree with you Kenobi was clearly superior in Sabers, I still think even in a Sabers only battle it would not be an easy smack down by any means.
Maul's shown himself to be the "skilled beast" Dooku described him as being in the ROTS novel.
In an all out though it's not as if Maul has been impervious to Kenobi's TK either. In their first duel he gave him a good spin around.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
True.But that was a proper smack down Maul gave Kenobi with the Force.
Whilst I agree with you Kenobi was clearly superior in Sabers, I still think even in a Sabers only battle it would not be an easy smack down by any means.
Maul's shown himself to be the "skilled beast" Dooku described him as being in the ROTS novel.
True, I agree In Sabers only battle it wouldn't be an easy smack.
Maul hasn't got use to his new legs yet either.
Maul has learned not to under estimate Kenobi.
Has Kenobi forgotten? Not to under estimate Maul or Savage?
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Savage needs instruction in the Sith arts.
Maul is either gonna teach him Djem So or Juyo.
Both are Sith strong styles and Savage is Brute strength and Brute Force.
Do you think they're gonna seek out Mother Talzin for the injuries or
repair the damages themselves?
Either way its time for Maul to really train his brother/apprentice or Savage's time in the CW will be real short lived.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
In an all out though it's not as if Maul has been impervious to Kenobi's TK either. In their first duel he gave him a good spin around.
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Sorry guys had to get that shot out to Mizukage Yoda.
He did in their first duel. Kenobi was clearly a little angry in that duel.
maybe mad a little bit. I have to watch it again.
In that first duel he tapped in to anger.
It is what is clearly Kenobi tapped into that anger again,
In their third Duel. Maul taunted about Qui Gon's Death (Dun Moch)
Savage kills I forgot her name and Obi Wan with that same look and emotion he felt when
Maul killed Qui Gon. Attacked. was it out of anger or out of compassion?
In my opinion he was angry and in control of that anger.
A little bit. its dangerous to say this but
I believe Kenobi may have touched something Dark
And needed to re center himself before he makes a mistake.
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Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
In an all out though it's not as if Maul has been impervious to Kenobi's TK either. In their first duel he gave him a good spin around.
You mean the same episode where Maul had trouble force lifting his own Lightsaber?
That was Maul right out of a straight jacket trying to reconnect to the force. It was a miracle he was even able to challenge Obi-Wan in that episode.
But as of the last episode it's pretty clear Maul's force powers are well beyond Obi-Wan's.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You mean the same episode where Maul had trouble force lifting his own Lightsaber?That was Maul right out of a straight jacket trying to reconnect to the force. It was a miracle he was even able to challenge Obi-Wan in that episode.
But as of the last episode it's pretty clear Maul's force powers are well beyond Obi-Wan's.
I mean this was also the same episode that Maul beat Kenobi, though in his defense this was right after he got tortured for a few hours.
Guys one at a time
Dooku vs Maul
Maul has to step his Game up
Shatter point to Maul (maul's weakness)
Can any body say Force Lightning??
Maul 's lower half is machine and vulnerable to Force Lightning
Shatter point to Dooku Maul will overwhelm him with Juyo
Dooku knowing this will counter attack by using Force Lightning
Thoughts ? taunts? replies ?
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
As long as we're utterly ignoring context here in a sad attempt to make a point, considering that their last 1on1 fight ended with Maul chopped in half falling down a pit, I'd say Obi-Wan would handily smoke Maul in a confrontation.
Jeez you really do hate Maul don't you?
Anyway that wasn't their last one on one.
I can see how she might have been disadvantaged giving up one of her Lightsabers to Obi-Wan. But I wouldn't expect that to make a world of difference.
That's my point 🙂 It's a big difference in my opinion - with two swords shce can use Niman/Jar'Kai (anyway, it looks like Opress has a lot of problems, when enemy is using two swords), while with one sword she's forced to use Makashi (which isn't a best style to counter Savage's great strenght).
Adi Gallia was also prepared to fight Opress, but also got battered.
In theory. In fact, she never fights him before.
That force wave seems well beyond Obi-Wan or Ventress to me.
And I think, that they would be able to do the same. But it's just my opinion.
So I just can't see how Ventress or Obi-Wan can match Opress in Force TK.
Hard to say...