Dooku vs Maul

Started by Mizukage Yoda25 pages
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Spoiler:
Reported for flame bait.

Maybe not.

Some people also don't understand sarcasm or that asking for proof is not an attempt to change canon.

Right except, I don't need to prove something that's been generally accepted on this forum for years.

What is this alien concept you call 'hyperbole'? Is it like your human emotion 'friendship?'

I guess this also means that Ventress is vastly superior to Anakin and O8i-Wan since she was a8le to take out one opponent just like Keno8i did. Which means that Ventress >>> O8i-Wan >>> Savage >>> Ventress >>> O8i-Wan continued ad infinitum.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Right except, I don't need to prove something that's been generally accepted on this forum for years.

What's generally accepted here or elsewhere is irrelevant; that's nothing more than a textbook appeal to the majority, which is a logical fallacy.

As I explained to you, until such a time that evidence for that quote (or any other) is provided, no one has any reason to believe it exists, let alone adhere to it rigidly.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Right except, I don't need to prove something that's been generally accepted on this forum for years.

The problem is it hasn't. Every time some one brings it up they are asked for the quote, but it is never presented. Hell, I once looked for it. But never found it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I was saying that he was dead to rights [b]if he couldn't have capitalised on Savage's knee. Learn 2 reed, peasant. [/B]

Ah, hard to read with all those numbers... 😛

Originally posted by Nephthys
What is this alien concept you call 'hyperbole'? Is it like your human emotion 'friendship?'

I guess this also means that Ventress is vastly superior to Anakin and O8i-Wan since she was a8le to take out one opponent just like Keno8i did. Which means that Ventress >>> O8i-Wan >>> Savage >>> Ventress >>> O8i-Wan continued ad infinitum.

Dude, it was blatantly stated that Kenobi won. Right after they said that he was an awesome swordsman.

What's your point?

Originally posted by Nephthys
What's your point?

That in raw bladeswork Kenobi>Savage or Maul and quite possibly both of them.

Nah.

O8i-Wan was in a specific mindset in that fight, as Filoni states.

I also personally disagree with Filoni that O8i-Wan 'won' that fight.

Unless you also think that Ventress is >> Anakin and O8i-Wan 8ecause she was 8eating them in their recent fight.

Honestly, Dave doesn't confirm anything other than what I've been saying for yearsmonthsa week or so now: many of the duels in TCW are situational and context-specific, hinging on certain factors like the environment and frame of mind. He says Obi-Wan lost to Maul in "Revenge" in large part because of being relatively unfocused. He also says Obi-Wan wasn't going to lose in "Revival" because of being "in that situation" and in that frame of mind, and attributes "overextension" to Maul and Savage's performance.

He doesn't suggest that Obi-Wan is superior.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I also personally disagree with Filoni that O8i-Wan 'won' that fight.

Yeah, he even says in response to Witwer that "you lost your legs" (which was because of the pirates, not Obi-Wan). Clearly Maul lost the encounter in that his plans tumbled apart, but not the duel.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah.

O8i-Wan was in a specific mindset in that fight, as Filoni states.

I also personally disagree with Filoni that O8i-Wan 'won' that fight.

I understand, but Filoni is the director of the show. So you would be wrong.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yeah, he even says in response to Witwer that "you lost your legs" (which was because of the pirates, not Obi-Wan). Clearly Maul lost the encounter in that his plans tumbled apart, but not the duel.

Indeed, he may have hurt Savage, 8ut Maul was still in the game, pissed and O8i-Wan was under a pile of ru88le. If Maul had kept fighting, would he have won? Dunno, I think it was a tie, like Witwer said.

Please. The over extension he was talking about was clearly a political over extension.

😐

Regardless, he only describes Kenobi's state of mind as "focused" and "ready". That doesn't seem to be a unique mindset, especially because he hints their loss in Revenge was partially due to the unexpected appearance of Savage.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Indeed, he may have hurt Savage, 8ut Maul was still in the game, pissed and O8i-Wan was under a pile of ru88le. If Maul had kept fighting, would he have won? Dunno, I think it was a tie, like Witwer said.

You're so handsome when you're right.

Which means you're ugly a lot. 😬

Originally posted by ares834
Please. The over extension he was talking about was clearly a political over extension.

It took me a sec. to gather that you, in fact, are being facetious.

Originally posted by ares834
Regardless, he only describes Kenobi's state of mind as "focused" and "ready". That doesn't seem to be a unique mindset, especially because he hints their loss in Revenge was partially due to the unexpected appearance of Savage.

He also says Obi-Wan becomes "more focused" after Adi's death, which sounds terribly familiar...

Originally posted by Nephthys
Indeed, he may have hurt Savage, 8ut Maul was still in the game, pissed and O8i-Wan was under a pile of ru88le. If Maul had kept fighting, would he have won? Dunno, I think it was a tie, like Witwer said.

He didn't hurt Savage. He had a broken leg and no arm. He wrecked Savage. And no Maul cannot solo focused Kenobi. Filoni blatantly states that it was not a tie. Witwer is just a voice actor he has no say on the way the fights are coordinated. Dude come on you are beating a dead horse. The director of the show said Kenobi won. Considering he made the show he is the ultimate authority on it.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
And no Maul cannot solo focused Kenobi.

But... he did. 😐

Again, Filoni clearly refers to the idea that Maul lost the battle/encounter (reminding Witwer of Maul's damaged legs, which happened because of the pirates), not specifically the saber clash.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
It took me a sec. to gather that you, in fact, are being facetious.

Yeah, added a smilie to make it more apparent.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
He also says Obi-Wan becomes "more focused" after Adi's death, which sounds terribly familiar...

Ah, didn't hear that. Still why does it sound familiar? It's certainly not similar to TPM.

Originally posted by ares834
Ah, didn't hear that. Still why does it sound familiar? It's certainly not similar to TPM.

yeah it does

How? In TPM he is giving in to anger and hate. He isn't doing that here at all.