Can any non-abstract defeat the Celestials?

Originally posted by ODG
The correct question is how are you going to win a battlezone when all you do is lie? If you're so confident I'm just making crap up, then take the battlezone and let the judges see it.

I didn't make up scans. I posted em. A lot of them. You're just being a sore loser because you're butthurt over star-sized Magus at his peak casually tearing apart stars and chucking them at planets. So you have to lowball him by focusing on his weakest/diminished man-sized form wrestling Rogue and pretending that he's just as powerful as he was when he tore apart stars.

What a childish lie. You are so petulant, it's embarrassing carrying on a conversation with you. You are, very clearly, one of the worst lying trolls I've ever come across. One of the absolute worst.

But we both know you'll never take a battlezone challenge because you don't want your lying and trolling exposed even further. You're content to troll the hell out of this thread with irrelevant off-topic garbage and lies. Congratulations for running away from yet another battlezone challenge, flopflop.

In between his first appearance, New Mutants 18 up to his "diminished" showings vs the X-Men (in Uncanny X-Men 192), show me where it says he was diminished and how this depowerment happened to him.

It's not hard at all. Since you apparently know something no one else knows.

Originally posted by zopzop
Wrong, the battlezone is pointless because you made a statement : "Magus was diminished ever since his initial appearance in New Mutants 18" and never backed it up. You never showed when this happened. How this happened. Who did it to him.

In between his first appearance, New Mutants 18 up to his "diminished" showings vs the X-Men (in Uncanny X-Men 192), show me where it says he was diminished and how this depowerment happened to him.

It's not hard at all. Since you apparently know something no one else knows.

Let's see how judges react to your argument that Magus' power levels remain static so that Rogue was wrestling with a being that can physically tear apart stars in half and chuck em at planets.

Let's go unless you're scared others will call you out on your lying and troling. C'mon. You're so confident that you managed to spam baldfaced lies for pages and pages. What's wrong with having some judges decide the issue? Do you want me to request a mod make a ruling instead? Are you also afraid of that? Cmon. I'm giving you choices here now. Own up or shut up with your lying.

Originally posted by ODG
Take the battlezone challenge, flopflop.

Let's see how judges react to your argument that Magus' power levels remain static so that Rogue was wrestling with a being that can physically tear apart stars in half and chuck em at planets.

Let's go unless you're scared others will call you out on your lying and troling. C'mon. You're so confident that you managed to spam baldfaced lies for pages and pages. What's wrong with having some judges decide the issue? Do you want me to request a mod make a ruling instead? Are you also afraid of that? Cmon. I'm giving you choices here now. Own up or shut up with your lying.

or

b) where/when/how it was shown on panel that he was depowered between his initial appearance in New Mutants 18 and his first showdown with the X-Men in Uncanny X-Men 192

You do that and you win. This shouldn't be hard since YOU flat out stated "He was diminished".

^ Once again, running away scared from both a battlezone AND a mod making a ruling here in this thread.

Not surprising though. I too would be embarrassed letting a panel of judges and a mod examine your lying. It is my fault for entertaining it this long though.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Once again, running away scared from both a battlezone AND a mod making a ruling here in this thread.

Not surprising though. I too would be embarrassed letting a panel of judges and a mod examine your lying. It is my fault for entertaining it this long though.

or

b) where/when/how it was shown on panel that he was depowered between his initial appearance in New Mutants 18 and his first showdown with the X-Men in Uncanny X-Men 192

You do that and you win. This shouldn't be hard since YOU flat out stated "He was diminished".

You've been avoiding this issue for pages.

^ Why are you so scared of a few judges deciding who's right? Or even a single mod making a ruling here?

If you're not lying, then you've got nothing to be afraid of.

Whatever. Keep copy-pasting red herrings to deflect from your lies. I never meant to grind you underneath my heel so badly that you can't do anything but spastically repeat yourself.

But there it is. Liars don't deserve my pity though.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Why are you so scared of a few judges deciding who's right? Or even a single mod making a ruling here?

If you're not lying, then you've got nothing to be afraid of.

Whatever. Keep copy-pasting red herrings to deflect from your lies. I never meant to grind you underneath my heel so badly that you can't do anything but spastically repeat yourself.

But there it is. Liars don't deserve my pity though.

^ You're right, no use in cut/pasting a question about a statement you made as if were a fact and backed up with no on panel proof : Magus cannot get any stronger or weaker with his energy/matter assimilation powers and always remains at the same power level.

Good job lying through your teeth, being scared to do a battlezone, and whimpering about a neutral mod making a ruling here. Another winner, flopflop. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
^ You're right, no use in cut/pasting a question about a statement you made as if were a fact and backed up with no on panel proof : Magus cannot get any stronger or weaker with his energy/matter assimilation powers and always remains at the same power level.

Good job lying through your teeth, being scared to do a battlezone, and whimpering about a neutral mod making a ruling here. Another winner, flopflop. 👆

What I want to know is, where was it stated that he was depowered/diminished from his first appearance to his showdown with the X-Men. Because that was never mentioned in any narration or character statement, that I know of, on panel. You have yet to back up that claim of yours and been avoiding the issue for pages now.

Originally posted by zopzop
No one said he can't get stronger or weaker. I mean when the X-Men were kicking his ass, he for SURE was weakening so much so that he ran away and hid before he lost.

What I want to know is, where was it stated that he was depowered/diminished from his first appearance to his showdown with the X-Men. Because that was never mentioned in any narration or character statement, that I know of, on panel. You have yet to back up that claim of yours and been avoiding the issue for pages now.

Good job wasting our time and derailing the thread topic completely, flopflop. You're a waste of internet. And considering what's on the internet, that's an accomplishment. Keep running. We all know all you have is your lies and trolling at this point since you clearly refuse to read comics.

Originally posted by ODG
So you just contradicted yourself by saying he wasn't diminished between his massive star-sized, sun tearing, planet obliterating levels to his man-size Rogue-wrestling levels.

Good job wasting our time and derailing the thread topic completely, flopflop. You're a waste of internet. And considering what's on the internet, that's an accomplishment. Keep running, flopflop. We all know all you have is your lies and trolling at this point.

Now what YOU have to show is, SINCE YOU SAID he was diminished from his initial appearance to when he fought the X-Men and all his subsequent showings, is HOW/WHEN/WHY did he get to that pathetic point where three X-Men were more than he could handle.

I'll wait patiently.

Originally posted by zopzop
That's not what I said at all. I said he could get stronger or weaker and gave an example where he was exhausting himself fighting three freaking X-Men.

Now what YOU have to show is, SINCE YOU SAID he was diminished from his initial appearance to when he fought the X-Men and all his subsequent showings, is HOW/WHEN/WHY did he get to that pathetic point where three X-Men were more than he could handle.

I'll wait patiently.

Takes quite a liar to end up chasing his own tail so much he ends up trying to cover up his own lies by lying to himself. But then again, you managed to argue with yourself for several pages once to cover up your trolling. A legendary display of a troll spectacularly e-combusting over his own double-standards and lies.

You flatly lied about the scans. You flatly lie about Magus. But your lying isn't helping your irrational lowballing of Magus. Get over it, you pathological liar. Or accept the battlezone challenge or accept a mod ruling on the matter.

Originally posted by ODG
And where he was stronger when he casually tore an entire sun in half and chucked it at a planet. You just admitted you were wrong. Then ended up lying about that.

Takes quite a liar to end up chasing his own tail so much he ends up trying to cover up his own lies by lying to himself. But then again, you managed to argue with yourself for several pages once to cover up your trolling. A legendary display of a troll spectacularly e-combusting over his own double-standards and lies.

You flatly lied about the scans. You flatly lie about Magus. But your lying isn't helping your irrational lowballing of Magus. Get over it, you pathological liar.

I'm still waiting for this. The fact is, THREE X-Men taxed him so much he was weakening and had to flee.

Originally posted by zopzop
Not really. YOU SAID he was diminished/depowerd by the time he fought the X-Men. I'm asking you for proof of this. How could he supposedly undergo such a power downgrade from his initial appearance to when he fought the X-Men and it NOT be mentioned on panel anywhere?

I'm still waiting for this. The fact is, THREE X-Men taxed him so much he was weakening and had to flee.

You're still lying that he doesn't have different levels of power. You actually just admitted it. Now you're just lying to cover up your admission over having lied. And still cowardly running away from a battlezone or a mod ruling. Take the battlezone or a neutral mod ruling on the matter or cease lying.

You've already cemented yourself as the worst liar on the KMC Vs forums. And over a random character that has less apearances then you have stubby little fingers.

Originally posted by ODG
The proof was that he was strong enough to tear apart stars casually and throw them at planets obliterating them. Then when he arrived to Earth, he was so weak he had to absorb deers and trees to wrestle with Rogue.

You're still lying that he doesn't have different levels of power. You actually just admitted it. Now you're just lying to cover up your admission over having lied. And still cowardly running away from a battlezone or a mod ruling. Take the battlezone or a neutral mod ruling on the matter or cease lying.

You've already cemented yourself as the worst liar on the KMC Vs forums.

^ You're not smart enough to strawman a simple statement. Stick to compulsively lying and running away from battlezones and mod rulings with your tail between your legs.

Good job admitting you were wrong though a few posts back.

Originally posted by ODG
^ You're not smart enough to strawman a simple statement. Stick to compulsively lying and running away from battlezones and mod rulings with your tail between your legs.

Good job admitting you were wrong though a few posts back.

The proof was that he was strong enough to tear apart stars casually and throw them at planets obliterating them. Then when he arrived to Earth, he was so weak he had to absorb deers and trees to wrestle with Rogue.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, so how did this happen? You keep saying he was diminished. How/When/Why on panel did this happen?

Or we can hear about how Magus had the same strength when he was chasing Warlock across space and tearing apart suns as when he was struggling with Rogue by the time he came to Earth.

Then again, you can't even bring yourself to acknowledge my battlezone challenge or offer to obtain a mod ruling. You know what's worse than a pathological liar? A pathological liar on the internet with no proof and no balls.

Great contribution, flopflop.

Originally posted by ODG
Read a comic, flopflop. Then again, you'll probably just run around lying about the comics again crying over a random obscure character.

Or we can hear about how Magus had the same strength when he was chasing Warlock across space and tearing apart suns as when he was struggling with Rogue by the time he came to Earth.

Then again, you can't even bring yourself to acknowledge my battlezone challenge or offer to obtain a mod ruling. You know what's worse than a pathological liar? A pathological liar on the internet with no proof and no balls.

Great contribution, flopflop.

Personally, I think "yes". I know that there are Celestials who have incredibly powerful feats, but not all of them. I think Magus could go a couple rounds with one.

^ I've been trolled and lied to so much in this thread I haven't even given that a single thought.

You could make the argument, at least.