Man of Steel (2013)

Started by -Pr-88 pages

I have seen the first Abrams movie, yes, and I was comparing that to what I'd heard about Man of Steel. You'll notice, if you'd read my post fully, that I picked my wording very specifically.

Why should I take your opinion as being one that I should trust, when we disagree on so many things? As far as I'm concerned you're wrong about Star Trek, so why should I trust you to fairly judge Superman, a character you readily admit to disliking, and enjoy trolling the fans of?

Because into darkness was actually a reallu good movie?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Because into darkness was actually a reallu good movie?

And what happens if I think both are really good movies and validate my own early impression?

Again, I was speaking about the first JJ trek movie, not into darkness.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I have seen the first Abrams movie, yes, and I was comparing that to what I'd heard about Man of Steel. You'll notice, if you'd read my post fully, that I picked my wording very specifically.

Why should I take your opinion as being one that I should trust, when we disagree on so many things? As far as I'm concerned you're wrong about Star Trek, so why should I trust you to fairly judge Superman, a character you readily admit to disliking, and enjoy trolling the fans of?

Because I'm honest. I've seen all three films. If I liked the movie I'd have said so. I didn't and gave honest criticisms.

J. J. Abrams IMO is a far better director with better movies but you're free to like them equally. I just vehemently disagree.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because I'm honest. I've seen all three films. If I liked the movie I'd have said so. I didn't and gave honest criticisms.

J. J. Abrams IMO is a far better director with better movies but you're free to like them equally. I just vehemently disagree.

I don't believe you. shrug

Fair enough.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So everything I've heard about MOS since it came out is that it has the same relation to the Superman franchise that JJ-Trek has to Star Trek, in that it's a more universally appealing, flashier version of the franchise with less depth.

That's fine with me, as long as it helps DC get out of the starting gate and on to something better in future.

MY sentiments exactly.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
MY sentiments exactly.

Finally. 👆

opening weekend numbers are in $234 million worldwide come sunday

http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/man-of-steel-beginning-worldwide-release-record-opening-day-in-the-philippines/

Bullshit.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't believe you. shrug

Fair enough.

You should.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Batman trilogy was very good unlike this movie. I'm honest. Stick to the topic or the discussion at hand. Thanks.

the topic is man of steel. not star trek or jj abrams. ridiculous muppet.

👆

Originally posted by focus4chumps
the topic is man of steel. not star trek or jj abrams. ridiculous muppet.
A comparison was made in which I commented on. Get back to the topic or conversation. Quit insulting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You should.

When I have reason to, I might.

Originally posted by -Pr-
When I have reason to, I might.
When are you seeing it ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When are you seeing it ?

Superman? Monday hopefully. Star Trek? Hoping the week after.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman? Monday hopefully. Star Trek? Hoping the week after.
You should see Into Darkness first. You won't regret it.

***MAY BE A LITTLE SPOILERISH...

Awesome movie.

Good acting performances all around. Cavill is the best Superman to date, Reeves was great as Clark, but Cavill's Superman had more character, imo. We only got like 2 minutes of Cavill in Clark Kent persona so it's hard to judge him on that portion of the character. Zod was a surprisingly flushed out character, i didn't expect that much depth. There were some genuinely powerful and emotional moments, e.g.

Spoiler:
when Jonathan died (Even though i thought that was kinda dumb seeing as he could have taken Martha to safety and let Clark get the dog... but whatever)
and
Spoiler:
when Clark had to kill Zod (even though i thought that was also dumb considering those people just stood there instead of, i dunno, getting the hell outta the way... again, whatever)
; both were dumb writing for the sake of drama, but it's hard to call them flaws since they were well done in terms of the emotional impact they had.

I didn't mind Lois; i thought the character was relevant to the story and not just a chick in the movie, but i didn't really like the relationship aspect, it felt like it happened too fast. I don't recall what connection they actually made with each other, other than Kal saving her repeatedly (btw, was that robot that attacked Lois supposed to be Brainiac?). Their romance didn't detract from the movie at all, I just didn't buy it. Heh. I do think it's interesting that Lois knows Clark is Superman from the very beginning. I view it as a good thing since it saves us from seeing that exhausting crap where Clark has to lie to Lois about his activities and we as viewers are supposed to believe she is so dumb that she can't figure out his secret.

Not a whole lot of humor, which i didn't mind because the tone was meant to be serious overall. Pretty much all of the comedic moments were in the trailer(s), though i did find myself laughing when Clark asked Jonathan if he was just supposed to let Pete die, and Jonathan said, "I dunno, maybe."... that was also in the trailers, but for some reason i laughed when i heard it in full context. Shit was coldblooded.

I like that they decided to show us Clark's past via flashbacks instead of a "straight line" narrative. I thought that decision allowed us to see his journey while also adding relevance to Kal's current situation... reminded me of "Slumdog Millionaire". Going in that direction kept the movie from feeling slow paced like origin stories usually do.

Action... AMAZING ACTION! STUPID AMAZING! Mouth open, feed me more of this amazing. The action in this movie makes Avengers look like Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

I loved how their speed was portrayed, but I actually thought the movie could have benefited from some of the slow-mo that's usually apart of Snyder's films. The action (the combat in particular) is so damn fast that it was often times difficult to appreciate; it was amazing in the moment, but i didn't get to savor it. They did a fantastic job at making you feel how powerful Superman and the rest of the Kryptonians really are... shit gets phucked up in this movie, and every hit felt heavy.

The digital effects were AMAZING! This is probably what they wanted to achieve with the Neo/Smith fights in The Matrix sequels. I also liked that Kal got owned due to Faora and the others having actual combat training.

Jor-El was a badass too, btw. That was a welcome surprise.

Man, I can't wait 'til this hits blue-ray. droolio I'll likely see it again in theaters before then.

9/10.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You should see Into Darkness first. You won't regret it.

I want to see Superman more than Into Darkness, so Superman takes priority. Plus, I'm not paying for the ticket so there's that too.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I want to see Superman more than Into Darkness, so Superman takes priority. Plus, I'm not paying for the ticket so there's that too.
Who is paying ?