The Most Powerful order of Light Side Force Sensitives.

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Q99 Senior Member
Originally posted by Starwarslogic
No i didnt DODGE anything, there was no Direct Qoute saying what the Zeison Sha Warriors were fully Capable of.

There you go dodging again! There was a direct quote and you dodged it!

and were Strong enough to make a Physical Sheild using Telekinetic Energy.

So are some Jedi and Sith who are good at TK.

It's not an unheard of ability that makes them better than everyone else or anything like that. It requires strong TK, but multiple orders have it.

earlier Before you kept qouting my Messages saying i dont have "Evidence" to back up my "Claims" and therefore Making things Up, and then Said dont State Something you cant back up with proper "Sources" or "Evidence".

Exactly, you just say something is true without being able to prove it.

well Isnt that the same thing you are doing About Bodo Baas.

Nope, it is in fact the exact opposite, I posted the exact quote and exactly where the quote came from.

I provide evidence, you don't.

Evidence trumps opinion lacking evidence.

he said NOTHING About the ZEISON SHA WARRIORS nor their Telekinetic Sheilds.

He was specifically talking about Zeison Sha warriors and their telekinesis.

Also, again, plenty of Jedi and Sith have telekinetic shields. It's not an ability only they have. I will even remind you that the Zeison Sha are a branch off of the Jedi, their techniques came from Jedi techniques.

bascicly says that the Zeison Sha Telekinetic Sheilds were unlike the Jedi's F.O.R.C.E walls

And Jedi have been shown to have force walls and telekinetic shields.

I dont know maybe for fun i guess?

It's bad writing skills is what it is. It makes you harder to read.

Also, don't has a ' in it, and I is capitalized, and you should use occasional paragraph breaks.

Star Wars Logic Restricted
Originally posted by Q99
[quote="Starwarslogic"]No i didnt DODGE anything, there was no Direct Qoute saying what the Zeison Sha Warriors were fully Capable of.

There you go dodging again! There was a direct quote and you dodged it!

So are some Jedi and Sith who are good at TK.

It's not an unheard of ability that makes them better than everyone else or anything like that. It requires strong TK, but multiple orders have it.

Exactly, you just say something is true without being able to prove it.

Nope, it is in fact the exact opposite, I posted the exact quote and exactly where the quote came from.

I provide evidence, you don't.

Evidence trumps opinion lacking evidence.

He was specifically talking about Zeison Sha warriors and their telekinesis.

Also, again, plenty of Jedi and Sith have telekinetic shields. It's not an ability only they have. I will even remind you that the Zeison Sha are a branch off of the Jedi, their techniques came from Jedi techniques.

And Jedi have been shown to have force walls and telekinetic shields.

It's bad writing skills is what it is. It makes you harder to read.

Also, don't has a ' in it, and I is capitalized, and you should use occasional paragraph breaks. [/QUOTE] Dodging? ...... Pathetic. And there you go again making assumptions. there was No Exact qoute telling what the Zeison Sha Warriors were fully Capable of. Only Bodo Baas stating what he saw from 2 Unidentified Zeison Sha Ranks Fighting against each Other in a Test of Demonstration displaying their Telekinetic skills With the Discblade.(Anything said Otherwise is your "opinion"😉 he didnt qoute anything about the Zeison Sha Warriors nor their Telekinetic Sheilds specificly. that part is what you added. wait you are adding and deleting' getting on me about not having and Exact qoute from a Specific Character to "Prove" what i say' when yet you dont either. you dont have Any exact qoutes reffering to the Zeison Sha warriors Capabilities with Telekinetic Sheilds nor attacks. and if you did you'd make yourself look like you were editing the Zeison Sha article in Wookiepedia to futher prove your point' but i know you wouldnt do that? oh wait. and oh! you said Before Bodo Baas was Stating what the Zeison Sha warriors were capable of with their "telekinetic Sheilds" and now that just Switched to the you saying Bodo baas was "Specifically" Talking about Zeison Sha Warriors and their "Telekinesis" even though the Zeison Sha warriors werent Specifically stated? 😆 And Plenty of Jedi and Sith have Telekinetic/Force walls and Spheres. The Zeison Sha warriors specialized in Telekinetic Powers, meaning that their Telekinetic Sheilds were more Advanced in Protection wise terms' then the Jedi's Force walls and Telekinetic Spheres. Since the Zeison Sha Warriors never suffered Casualties that had Causes. Picture it this way Q99 because this is as simple as i can put it. The Zeison Sha Warrior's Telekinetic Sheilds were Just like the Sheilds in were seen in Halo's 1 and 2. Sheilds that Surrounded the ENTIRE OUTER LAIRERS OF THE BODY. Just the Only difference is that, the Zeison Sha's Telekinetic Sheilds dosent Break nor Exhaust the User no matter how Many Blaster Bolts or Force attacks hits it. also Not requiring the User to Regenerate/ Guide the Sheild to defend themselfs in Certin areas. basicly the Zeison Sha Warriors Telekinetic Sheilds are just like putting on Indestructible Telekinetic Armor for short. Q99 you are turning into more of a Hypocrite with every Reply, so keep me Entertained will ya 😉 ?

GenomeFrozener The Last Boss
there was No Exact qoute telling what the Zeison Sha Warriors were fully Capable of.

There we have it folks! Even the Zeison Sha fanboy admits it!

(Anything said Otherwise is your "opinion"😉 he didnt qoute anything about the Zeison Sha Warriors nor their Telekinetic Sheilds specificly.

Funny, sounds a bit like you.

yet you dont either.

Neither do you.

you dont have Any exact qoutes reffering to the Zeison Sha warriors Capabilities with Telekinetic Sheilds nor attacks.

Neither do you.

and if you did you'd make yourself look like you were editing the Zeison Sha article in Wookiepedia to futher prove your point' but i know you wouldnt do that? oh wait.

Why would he edit the article of a group of nobodies?

The Zeison Sha Warrior's Telekinetic Sheilds were Just like the Sheilds in were seen in Halo's 1 and 2.

Lol what the... Where the hell did you get that idea?

Sheilds that Surrounded the ENTIRE OUTER LAIRERS OF THE BODY.

Not only are your agrument skills terrible, you can't spell much less form a cohenrent sentence.

Just the Only difference is that, the Zeison Sha's Telekinetic Sheilds dosent Break nor Exhaust the User no matter how Many Blaster Bolts or Force attacks hits it. also Not requiring the User to Regenerate/ Guide the Sheild to defend themselfs in Certin areas. basicly the Zeison Sha Warriors Telekinetic Sheilds are just like putting on Indestructible Telekinetic Armor for short.
Q99 you are turning into more of a Hypocrite with every Reply, so keep me Entertained will ya 😉 ?

You must be either a dunce or a troll. Hell, maybe even both.

Star Wars Logic Restricted

Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
There we have it folks! Even the Zeison Sha fanboy admits it!

You must be either a dunce or a troll. Hell, maybe even both.

Zeison Sha fan boy admitts it? No Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic II the Sith Lords States what the Zeison Sha warriors were Capable of In Telekinetic Powers and in the Force, that was not a lie. its just no Notable Characters in the Star Wars Series know what the Zeison Sha warriors were capable of. only the Creators of the Star Wars Series Stated what they are capable of, and one of those forms that they told The Zeison Sha warriors Capabilities in was the Zeison Sha Warrior Armor's Description in Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic II the Sith Lords. and where did i get that idea? The Zeison Sha warriors were specialist in Telekinetic Powers. and Known for their Survival Skills A.k.a Known as Rarely Suffering Casualties that have causes. and Since they were known to Surpass Many Jedi in the Telekinetic area. that means that they have Superior Telekinetic Offensives and Defensives that hasnt been yet witnessed by the Jedi Order. Poor Argument skills? Can't Spell? Somebody's trying to get technical. but i will warn you. you dont want the same thing to happen here like it did at Mangafox.

Q99 Senior Member
Zeison Sha fan boy admitts it? No Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic II the Sith Lords States what the Zeison Sha warriors were Capable of In Telekinetic Powers and in the Force, that was not a lie

Yea, and no-one's saying it's a lie.

However, you're then taking that and running way past what was stated and into the realms of speculation and fanon.

They aren't the only ones with exceptional Telekinesis.

darth buttmunch Junior Member
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Zeison Sha fan boy admitts it? No Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic II the Sith Lords States what the Zeison Sha warriors were Capable of In Telekinetic Powers and in the Force, that was not a lie. its just no Notable Characters in the Star Wars Series know what the Zeison Sha warriors were capable of. only the Creators of the Star Wars Series Stated what they are capable of, and one of those forms that they told The Zeison Sha warriors Capabilities in was the Zeison Sha Warrior Armor's Description in Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic II the Sith Lords. and where did i get that idea? The Zeison Sha warriors were specialist in Telekinetic Powers. and Known for their Survival Skills A.k.a Known as Rarely Suffering Casualties that have causes. and Since they were known to Surpass Many Jedi in the Telekinetic area. that means that they have Superior Telekinetic Offensives and Defensives that hasnt been yet witnessed by the Jedi Order. Poor Argument skills? Can't Spell? Somebody's trying to get technical. but i will warn you. you dont want the same thing to happen here like it did at Mangafox.

^The product of Ush's efforts on this forum the past year.

Star Wars Logic Restricted

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, and no-one's saying it's a lie.

However, you're then taking that and running way past what was stated and into the realms of speculation and fanon.

They aren't the only ones with exceptional Telekinesis.

There is no Speculation nor Fanon about what i say twords the Zeison Sha Matukai or Jal Shey. and yes you are right about the Zeison Sha not being the only ones powerful in in telekinesis and other telekinetic abilitys. Tulak Hord is 1 example. he was able to pull down a entire carrier with sheer use of Telekinesis stating he was a master of Telekinesis similar to a Zeison Sha Warrior. The Zeison Sha are the most powerful Light Side force organization in the Use of Telekinetic Powers. being known as masters of the telekinetic powers and known for their Survival skills confirms that their telekinetic sheilds are unlike the jedi's force walls and telekinetic spheres' but rather more advance in defense that has yet to be witnessed by the jedi order and other force using sects.

Star Wars Logic Restricted

Originally posted by darth buttmunch
^The product of Ush's efforts on this forum the past year.
i am no product of anyone. and who's Ush?

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Q99 Senior Member
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
being known as masters of the telekinetic powers and known for their Survival skills confirms that their telekinetic sheilds are unlike the jedi's force walls and telekinetic spheres' but rather more advance in defense that has yet to be witnessed by the jedi order and other force using sects.

This is the speculation/fanon part. Nothing says theirs are better than the Jedi/Sith who can do it.

No-one has ever compared them in canon. All that was said is that most ZS are good at telekinesis.

Star Wars Logic Restricted

Originally posted by Q99
This is the speculation/fanon part. Nothing says theirs are better than the Jedi/Sith who can do it.

No-one has ever compared them in canon. All that was said is that most ZS are good at telekinesis.

There is no speculation nor fannon about everything i have said conserning the zeison sha. The zeison sha werent just good at telekinesis and telekinetic powers' they were masters of telekinesis and telekinetic powers. The reason why no one compared them nor gave them any notable indivisuals for the time being is because of their capabilities. It was described that the zeison sha's initiates were already capable of using the force to wrap their body up completely' meaning the zeison sha's initiates were using the force to surround the physical body's outer surface to block many forms of physical attacks' and resist most forms of force offensives' and to resist amounts of damage that would normally hurt disorient cripple or kill a person. But the zeison sha initiate's force armor wasnt perfected' the side effects of the zeison sha initiates using that newfound technique is their spiritual energy taking a massive drain on the user after the technique has been deactivated' which in some cases could prove to be fatal depending how long the technique is in effect. (such as 48 hours of continual usage) This is why the zeison sha's warriors use telekinetic made physical sheilds instead of using the force to wrap themselfs up. thus never suffering casualties that could have been caused by their planet's ecosystem' and the empire's technological advantages and attempts to stamp them out similar to what happened to the jedi and the matukai. The zeison sha will not be mentioned again for awhile because of their capabilities and once everyone witnesses their telekinetic capabilities. the question will be posed. since the zeison sha are a undefeated force organization and known for never suffering casualties during war. then why arent they fighting the sith instead of the jedi? and then the answer to that will be. The zeison sha's numbers are no where near as big as the jedi order. along with the fact that if they were just as big as the jedi order. people would want to see zeison sha vs sith. Instead of jedi vs sith which defeats the whole purpose of star wars.

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Q99 Senior Member
here is no speculation nor fannon about everything i have said conserning the zeison sha.

Except you're saying stuff not from any book or show, like how their telekinetic fields are better than those of Jedi who use the move.

That, by definition, is speculation/fanon.

Star Wars Logic Restricted

Originally posted by Q99
Except you're saying stuff not from any book or show, like how their telekinetic fields are better than those of Jedi who use the move.

That, by definition, is speculation/fanon.

Actually all of what i said about the zeison sha warriors is stated in the zeison sha warrior's armor description in star wars knights of the old republic II the sith lords. But you still didnt do what i asked you to do. Find the zeison sha warrior armor and read the description and thats where it states the zeison sha's telekinetic made physical sheild's advancement. you will not find the exact description stated in the zeison sha warrior's armor on wookieepedia i already tried that. That of everything i have said about the zeison sha by definition is a fact. i have still yet to mention one more fact about the zeison sha's organization. zeison sha warrior is NOT the highest rank within their order.

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I truly, truly hope you are incorrect with this. Please be incorrect. My brain doesn't deserve that, quanchi, and the new RJ......

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Q99 Senior Member
Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Actually all of what i said about the zeison sha warriors is stated in the zeison sha warrior's armor description in star wars knights of the old republic II the sith lords. But you still didnt do what i asked you to do. Find the zeison sha warrior armor and read the description and thats where it states the zeison sha's telekinetic made physical sheild's advancement. you will not find the exact description stated in the zeison sha warrior's armor on wookieepedia i already tried that. That of everything i have said about the zeison sha by definition is a fact.

And yet, when asked to provide quotes on precisely what was said, you refused.

You say right there that you know exactly where it is, so why not just write out the quote yourself, word for word?

I do believe that while it said they had physical shields, it probably says nothing about their physical shields being better than those of other people who can use the ability, and you're likely speculating fanon-ing.

KylarWhite Junior Member

Seriously, even if they are the most powerful in telekinesis (and I'm not saying they are), that doesn't matter. To be the most powerful order of light side force sensitives, they have to be good, better than good actually, in more than one area of the force.

And regarding evidence, you're the one trying to assert a claim, so it's up to you to find and present supporting evidence, not us.

Star Wars Logic Restricted

Originally posted by Q99
And yet, when asked to provide quotes on precisely what was said, you refused.

You say right there that you know exactly where it is, so why not just write out the quote yourself, word for word?

I do believe that while it said they had physical shields, it probably says nothing about their physical shields being better than those of other people who can use the ability, and you're likely speculating fanon-ing.

And yet you still dont get it do you? even though i thought i made myself clear the first time. There was NO exact quote from any character in star wars explaining what the zeison sha warriors were capable of. Only the in game description in Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic II The Sith Lords Zeison Sha Warrior armor's description and it reads. The Zeison Sha warriors were unmatched in telekinetic force powers and strong enough to make a physical sheild using the mind' it was described as using the force to wrap around themselfs. (A.K.A sheilds that surrounds the entire surface of the body' NOT using Force walls or force spheres for defense that later get overwhelmed by blaster fire and force attacks) and do you want me to give you the whole description? even though the sentence of note has already been revealed?

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Originally posted by KylarWhite
Seriously, even if they are the most powerful in telekinesis (and I'm not saying they are), that doesn't matter. To be the most powerful order of light side force sensitives, they have to be good, better than good actually, in more than one area of the force.

And regarding evidence, you're the one trying to assert a claim, so it's up to you to find and present supporting evidence, not us.

And i can give you plenty of reasons why the Zeison Sha are the most powerful order of lightside force sensitives. Reason number 1' they have never suffered a casualty during the Great Jedi Perge and ultimately Survived' even though the empire had the technological advantage' the same jedi perge that was ordered by darth sidious' and one that torn the Jedi order and the Matukai apart putting them both into near extinction 🙂 . The zeison sha were fighting the empire for decades after the imperial occupation of yannibar' and even with their lack of technology (such as speeder bikes tanks ships and man made sheilds) they still drove the empire off their planet without casualties on both the Zeison Sha Initiates and the Zeison Sha warriors not requiring the highest rank of the zeison sha to approach the battlefeild 📖. Reason 2 why they are the most powerful order of Light Side Force Sensitives is that. The Zeison Sha warriors were masters of telekinesis and telekinetic powers' telekinetic powers that surpass many of the jedi's force capabilities. Example Tulak Hord. Tulak Hord was a master of Telekinesis and was strong enough to pull down things ranging up to assault ships to assault carriers with little trouble destroying them in the process. That telekinetic ability was fairly common among the Zeison sha warriors since they were also known Masters of that art and also one of the reasons why the empire fled the yanibar system in search of other force orders that be can targeted for persecution 📖. Reason 3 they havent shown the highest rank of the Zeison Sha order. The higher the rank in the Zeison Sha the more powerful the indivisual will be in telekinetic powers physically and in the force. There are countless Reason why there are the most powerful' reasons that will be witnessed in the future 📖 and regarding evidence? the evidence has already been revealed' but if you want to say that its a opinion' depending on how high its disagreeable. then you should investigate what the person is stating to later find truth or deceit in what he has shown as evidence or or stated. there is no CLAIMS to anything i say 😐.