Originally posted by Q99
StarWarsLogic- One, that's not how burden of proof works. If you can't post a source or a quote, then you can't proof it, period. Two, I have the original information from the books, I did check the sources and quotes. I have read them. They disagree with you. Wookkiepedia disagrees with you, Jedi vs Sith the Complete Guild to the Force disagrees with you.

They don't include what you're saying. They don't say the ZS are stronger than the Jedi, they don't say the Jedi are weak in the physical aspects, they don't say the ZS took no casualties from the Imperials. None of the sources say any of that.

Or in other words, you're making stuff up, then waving in the direction of the sources and counting on no-one checking.

I checked, and you're wrong, it doesn't say that stuff, I have caught you lying.

Uh huh, even though I posted a *five year old* part that shows what I said was true was around well before this discussion.

Look, Edit logs. Since we have started this thread, there have been 3 edits. HotCat, who moved one line of website info and changed no data, KillerRoboLeia3000 who updated the reference links but changed no writing, and Добродетель , who apparently added their Russian name or something. I don't know, I don't read that language.

Then back in 2010, Xicer9 changed 'New Sith War' to 'New Sith Wars' in their history section.

There has not been an actual change in the content since 2009, over 3 years ago, at which point the information that disagrees with you was already there.

So tell me, what precisely did I edit and what happened to this supposed phantom edit, or are you just going to admit that you made up the change and lied about it because you didn't want to admit you misremembered/got things wrong?

And the Marka Ragnos one? Was I even in that thread? I'm not even sure what you're accusing me of there. I think I've just become your boogie man for excusing why you're so very wrong.

Also? Lying and accusing me of cheating just because you don't like admitting you're wrong? Very low.

You are dishonest and a proven lier. You make up stuff and accuse others to try and cover your tracks.

Well since you don't want evidence then you are no longer a consern of mine. I told before wookieepedia is a easy way to solve the evidence problem you seem to have, im not going to waste time looking for the exact quote/statement on the exact page of a specific Star Wars book when wookieepedia can take you to those things altogether when you type their name in correctly.

And when it comes to the Zeison Sha far surpassing the jedi telekinetically, and the jedi being physically weaker from what they once were before they split from their original order these things are true. Star Wars BOOKS thats created for the purposes of profit & fans are not going to tell you that their iconic orders are more powerful or weaker then other orders, but rather they show more powerful notables from the main branch of orders and let you figure out who's more stronger in comparison to future orders that have been described.

For short, the BOOKS ARE N O T GOING TO TELL YOU DIRECTLY THAT THE JEDI ARE MORE WEAKER THEN THE ZEISON SHA and ITS NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THEIR WEAKNESSES, thats was left for the fans to figure out as they go along. If you still can't understand that yet then it appears that you are lost.

And as for your reasons of editing, what you said & shown changes nothing, your KMC account and your pedia accounts are 2 different things.

Very wrong i am? no you just want me to be, just because i revealed that the Zeison Sha & Matukai orders are more powerful then the jedi in specific areas.