Originally posted by Nibedicus
To: UtrigaSome of what he said up there I already addressed. The fact that he repeats the same weak argument means that he didn't take the time to read my posts or just plain ignored it. Which means he just likes to waste ppl's time. He'll do the same to you. Best just to ignore him.
Shaw soloes. Phoenix soloes.
Didn't realise i was so important to you that you just need to keep bringing me up.
So what's Shaw's answer for Alice?
Originally posted by juggerman
Didn't realise i was so important to you that you just need to keep bringing me up.So what's Shaw's answer for Alice?
I wasn't talking to you. Utriga seems like a logical debater, don't want him wasting his time on someone who doesn't debate properly.
I'd answer but I don't want you going off on a tangent again and then claming "impasse" on arguments you have 0 answers for. It's a waste of my time, yknow? Why would anyone wanna answer if you debate that way?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I wasn't talking to you. Utriga seems like a logical debater, don't want him wasting his time on someoneI'd answer but I don't want you going off on a tangent again and then claming "impasse" on arguments you have 0 answers for. It's a waste of my time, yknow? Why would anyone wanna answer if you debate that way?
You were talking to someone about me yes?
What tangent? All i said was i don't see a point in continuing that line. The same situation is still in play (Shaw by himself vs the Twilight guys) im just giving another reason don't think Shaw could win
If there was a tangent it came from you my friend. "I cannot argue another point at all ever unless you pat my head and say i was a good boy!"
I'm very interested in any way you or anyone else thinks Shaw can overcome Alice whenever you're ready
Originally posted by juggerman
You were talking to someone about me yes?What tangent? All i said was i don't see a point in continuing that line. The same situation is still in play (Shaw by himself vs the Twilight guys) im just giving another reason don't think Shaw could win
If there was a tangent it came from you my friend. "I cannot argue another point at all ever unless you pat my head and say i was a good boy!"
I'm very interested in any way you or anyone else thinks Shaw can overcome Alice whenever you're ready
Lol. Now you're either lying or don't know what a tangent is.
Or maybe you have a short memory?
Let me recap for your benefit. We've been debating about Shaw soloing. Your primary argumrnt against it was that "Edward will read his mind while Shaw is thinking about how his power work. As asinine as that is (yes completely asinine), I easily kicked that argument in the balls vis Shaw's helmet. Then we went back and forth about Edward figuring out what the helmet is for. I kicked that argument in the balls, too, but this time you head out into a COMPLETELY NEW direction w/o first addressing the arguments that I put together or at least conceding the point like any decent debator would.
THAT my friend is going off on a tanget. What I'm simply requesting is that you go back to the topic we were discussing snd either a) address my previous points with a counterargument or b) concede that the whole "Edward figures it out" logic was flawed (it is) from the beginning. I mean, why even defend this stance?? You, yourself, mentioned that his line of thought is no longer worth discussing (in your opinion). Why not concede it?
I would address your new argument but I refuse to waste my time with you if (by your current behavior) all you do is run off on tangents the minute you're losing in your current line of thought.
Or are you just trolling now?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Lol. Now you're either lying or don't know what a tangent is.Or maybe you have a short memory?
Let me recap for your benefit. We've been debating about Shaw soloing. Your primary argumrnt against it was that "Edward will read his mind while Shaw is thinking about how his power work. As asinine as that is (yes completely asinine), I easily kicked that argument in the balls vis Shaw's helmet. Then we went back and forth about Edward figuring out what the helmet is for. I kicked that argument in the balls, too, but this time you head out into a COMPLETELY NEW direction w/o first addressing the arguments that I put together or at least conceding the point like any decent debator would.
THAT my friend is going off on a tanget. What I'm simply requesting is that you go back to the topic we were discussing snd either a) address my previous points with a counterargument or b) concede that the whole "Edward figures it out" logic was flawed (it is) from the beginning. I mean, why even defend this stance?? You, yourself, mentioned that his line of thought is no longer worth discussing (in your opinion). Why not concede it?
I would address your new argument but I refuse to waste my time with you if (by your current behavior) all you do is run off on tangents the minute you're losing in your current line of thought.
Or are you just trolling now?
Aren't you wasting your time with me now? Why not do so with a argument about how Shaw beats Alice
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Because now I'm enjoying wasting your time as much as you wasted mine.
I guess that makes sense. Tho i really think you've wasted your own time. I tried to continue past our back and forth time by bringing a new dimension to the debate and you kept trying to avoid it.
I g2g soon but i'll be back tomorrow to continue wasting time.
Originally posted by juggerman
I guess that makes sense. Tho i really think you've wasted your own time. I tried to continue past our back and forth time by bringing a new dimension to the debate and you kept trying to avoid it.I g2g soon but i'll be back tomorrow to continue wasting time.
Hey, I'm just burning time til my gf gets back from work (took a sabbatical from work to help her apartment hunt, move, etc after Sandy). Got nothing but time to burn.
I want to continue past it, too. What I do not get is why you refuse to concede your previous argument when you are obviously unable and unwilling to defend it any further.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
after reading some of this is Juggerman saying that Edward can Shaw's mind even though Shaw has on the helmet??
For a time, I think he was (or it seemed like he was). He recently retracted/corrected it with his comment (in parenthesis) about how the helmet would be off when Edward read's Shaw's mind (w/c would make the whole mind reading moot as Jane would be able to use her powers instead). Don't ask me where he was taking that line of thought, tho. 😛
Originally posted by NibedicusYeah, Jane solos.
For a time, I think he was (or it seemed like he was). He recently retracted/corrected it with his comment (in parenthesis) about how the helmet would be off when Edward read's Shaw's mind (w/c would make the whole mind reading moot as Jane would be able to use her powers instead). Don't ask me where he was taking that line of thought, tho. 😛
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Shaw solos. Not sure how they can hurt him here.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Yeah, Jane solos.
you must enjoy waffles, don't you??? 😂
Originally posted by Nibedicus
For a time, I think he was (or it seemed like he was). He recently retracted/corrected it with his comment (in parenthesis) about how the helmet would be off when Edward read's Shaw's mind (w/c would make the whole mind reading moot as Jane would be able to use her powers instead). Don't ask me where he was taking that line of thought, tho. 😛
maybe he'll extract on it more lol
Originally posted by Nibedicus
For a time, I think he was (or it seemed like he was). He recently retracted/corrected it with his comment (in parenthesis) about how the helmet would be off when Edward read's Shaw's mind (w/c would make the whole mind reading moot as Jane would be able to use her powers instead). Don't ask me where he was taking that line of thought, tho. 😛
No i think you misunderstood my meaning. At first yeah i said Ed would read his mind until someone brought up the helmet. Which i replied Ed would realise then he was being blocked and suspect the helmet. You argued he wouldn't look to the helmet. After some back and forth i said Jane would also try her power and fail due to the helmet and no you have more ppl looking for the reason they are being blocked. You said they still wouldn't suspect the helmet so i dropped that and looked to Alice for a reason Shaw would lose.