Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by Robtard
Anyhow, lunatic fanboy ranting aside, even ignoring the source material and JK Rowling, whose word is final, Voldermort attempted to use anus-lipped Malfoy to kill Dumbledore for him and only fully attacked Hogwarts after Dumbledore was dead.

That alone should tell you that Voldermort despite his vast dark magic, knew who the real top-dog of wizard-world was. Dumbledore.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's a shame. I actually wanted your help. So according to you dictating a fight but never gaining the upper hand makes you superior. Actually if voldemort never broke off the expelliarmus vs Arvada kedavra and if Harry would never have gotten to close he would have drowned him. No one outside can save you from an attack like that. If he could have protected Harry he wouldn't have bothered with snake teaching him occlumecy. Dumbledore can make mistakes, however him dieing by that is not a bad showing. Dumbledore not defending Harry from voldemort so occlumecy is not a low showing. You are clearly wrong and you are just like Roberta.

🙂 Quit repeating yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, that does not make any sense. If Dumbledore had him at his mercy then why knock Harry back. Harry wasn't about to stumble into the bubble. The reason he knocked him back is because Voldemort moved forward thus breaking the water bubble. Dumbledore knew this so he knocked Harry back because he knew an attack was coming. Based off your theory Dumbledore is an idiot and did something completely unnecessary and made a critical error.

So he was unable to protect him. Awesome. Glad you admitted he was unable.

You're the same guy who claimed Palpatine lost his saber against windy on purpose without a shred of proof. 😂

If voldemort is inside the bubble he is at dumbledores mercy. He can't walk. He's in the bubble trying to escape. Whatever your thoughts are there it is. Dumbledore wanted Harry to get back and he got to close. Whatever your thoughts are that's just the way it is. He wanted him to stay back and Harry was getting to close. Whatever you try and say it's already there plain as day. Done deal get over it. Based on fact actually, and Dumbledore is actually very intelligent, also not an idiot someone who is trying to make sure Harry is where he needs him to be.

You can't protect against that type of mind attack in a conventional fashion. All Dumbledore could do was raise a mind shield, however no wizard alive can protect another's mind for them. However he did help Harry through it so.

Oh whatever but that's not the topic the topic is you being wrong about this. Dumbledore in every source book movie whatever is clearly the most powerful wizard. You can't prove that voldemort is better. All you have is your own opinion and interpretation of the battle when the description has already been made.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. He attacked hogwarts after the ministry was supplanted. It had nothing to do with Dumbledore. He wanted Dumbledore dead and he did die. Be aware of what's going on in the film. Voldemort's dark magic already sealed Dumbledore's fate.
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Nope, what I said was correct. But good job in painting Voldermort as an even bigger coward. 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
So ignoring context and doing flips, just like I said you would.

More lies/flaming, good job repeatedly proving my point 👆

Grow up, boy.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Nope, what I said was correct. But good job in painting Voldermort as an even bigger coward. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. He attacked hogwarts after the ministry was supplanted. It had nothing to do with Dumbledore. He wanted Dumbledore dead and he did die. Be aware of what's going on in the film. Voldemort's dark magic already sealed Dumbledore's fate.
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Of that we're the case why didn't he attack hogwarts during the order of the Phoenix. He would have had a much easier time with the ministry not helping, all the main characters not being at peak performance, having all his horcuxes so he couldn't die and Dumbledore didn't know at that time. Or why didn't he attack during the summer when all the students were away. See the difference between all the other scenarios vs the one that happened were that there is a Dumbledore.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They wanted to take him in and instead of facing the music or combating them he fled. To me that's an act of cowardice. You may see fleeing as commendable. Sandor clegane tucked tail in the midst of a battle when he saw a little fire. You like dem cowards.

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Because more important matters were at stake, did you not follow along?

You've also said Voldermort was not a coward when he ran instead of facing several wizards. So once again you're acting like a child because his favorite can't win, good job in proving me correct again 👆

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If voldemort is inside the bubble he is at dumbledores mercy. He can't walk. He's in the bubble trying to escape. Whatever your thoughts are there it is. Dumbledore wanted Harry to get back and he got to close. Whatever your thoughts are that's just the way it is. He wanted him to stay back and Harry was getting to close. Whatever you try and say it's already there plain as day. Done deal get over it. Based on fact actually, and Dumbledore is actually very intelligent, also not an idiot someone who is trying to make sure Harry is where he needs him to be.

You can't protect against that type of mind attack in a conventional fashion. All Dumbledore could do was raise a mind shield, however no wizard alive can protect another's mind for them. However he did help Harry through it so.

Oh whatever but that's not the topic the topic is you being wrong about this. Dumbledore in every source book movie whatever is clearly the most powerful wizard. You can't prove that voldemort is better. All you have is your own opinion and interpretation of the battle when the description has already been made.

No, you make no sense and act like Dumbledore is a putz. He isn't. He knew Voldemort was breaking free and wanted Harry as far back as possible because Voldemort was bringing the heat. I'm a ****ing great debater.

He and Harry's friends helped but he could not magically help. Voldemort is awesome.

Not in the special features of the films. Voldemort let was said to be the greatest wizard. Films only. I cited differences and books are invalid sources of info on the forum. Quit breaking the rules because I'm amazing and correct.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He tactically took Dumbledore out and then destroyed the ministry. He had the wizarding world at his mercy and attacked hogwarts because Harry was there at this point in time. Follow the events just don't say dumb things showing no real grasp of what occurred in the films and why.

"Tactically"? 😂 Dumbledore let himself be killed for the greater good. You didn't pay attention again, just focused on the bright lights and action scenes, typical of your kind.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because more important matters were at stake, did you not follow along?

You've also said Voldermort was not a coward when he ran instead of facing several wizards. So once again you're acting like a child because his favorite can't win, good job in proving me correct again 👆

Voldemort faced more wizards and he was in the midst of a peer. No one there was a peer to Dumbledore.

Dumbledore, Harry, his friends, and multiple Aurors were there. Try and watch the scene and pay attention to what I say.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
He tactically took Dumbledore out and then destroyed the ministry. He had the wizarding world at his mercy and attacked hogwarts because Harry was there at this point in time. Follow the events just don't say dumb things showing no real grasp of what occurred in the films and why.

There was no tactically to it. He put a curse on the ring to protect it from anyone not just Dumbledore. He made that as a constellation prize. The horcux is found but the person dies. He attacked hogwarts and look what happened he was killed and his forces were destroyed. That's what you need to do instead of just using your own little assertions and trying to pass them off as proof.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He fled and in that moment he was a coward. Stick around and prove his case. The minister shit his pants at the sight of Voldemort but he clearly was not scared of Dumbledore.

Voldemort faced more wizards and he was in the midst of a peer. No one there was a peer to Dumbledore.

Dumbledore, Harry, his friends, and multiple Aurors were there. Try and watch the scene and pay attention to what I say.

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Again, you didn't pay attention, Let me help you: The risk were too great and it could have meant deaths Dumbledore didn't want.

Poor comparison again: Voldermort could have gone all out, since he would have had no issues killing them. You should really stop and think for at least a few moments before spouting this nonsense.

#checkmateagain

Originally posted by Robtard
"Tactically"? 😂 Dumbledore let himself be killed for the greater good. You didn't pay attention again, just focused on the bright lights and action scenes, typical of your kind.

Dumbledore was already going to die because he was stupid. His fate was sealed so his fate had already been decided.

I was correct. Voldemort had no qualms when Dumbledore showed up against dueling him. One on one. 🙂.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
There was no tactically to it. He put a curse on the ring to protect it from anyone not just Dumbledore. He made that as a constellation prize. The horcux is found but the person dies. He attacked hogwarts and look what happened he was killed and his forces were destroyed. That's what you need to do instead of just using your own little assertions and trying to pass them off as proof.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, that's a word.

Dumbledore was already going to die because he was stupid. His fate was sealed so his fate had already been decided.

I was correct. Voldemort had no qualms when Dumbledore showed up against dueling him. One on one. 🙂.

And you incorrectly applied it to the scene.

More child tactics, good job continually proving me correct 👆

No, sorry. You're wrong as shown over and over, by multiple people; you won't be able to handle it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Again, you didn't pay attention, Let me help you: The risk were too great and it could have meant deaths Dumbledore didn't want.

Poor comparison again: Voldermort could have gone all out, since he would have had no issues killing them. You should really stop and think for at least a few moments before spouting this nonsense.

#checkmateagain

He faced a peer as well. Dumbledore faced no papers like I said inferior wizards. He doesn't have to kill them either. Voldemort faced far greater numbers and a peer.

Read what I write next time.

#gothim

Originally posted by Robtard
And you incorrectly applied it to the scene.

More child tactics, good job continually proving me correct 👆

No, sorry. You're wrong as shown over and over, by multiple people; you won't be able to handle it.

I used the word to describe how he tactically took over the wizarding world. I correctly used it, dummy.

So you deny the obvious that Voldemort fought Dumbledore. You're a brick wall. Incapable of thought.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He did not have to fight. He could have faced the music.

He faced a peer as well. Dumbledore faced no papers like I said inferior wizards. He doesn't have to kill them either. Voldemort faced far greater numbers and a peer.

Read what I write next time.

#gothim

The hell, it's like you didn't actually watch the film. If Dumbledore had let himself be taken and not slapped down the wizards trying to arrest him before fleeing, Voldermort would have likely won in the end. No special training for Harry. No hunting down of Horcruxes etc.

Unfortunately I do read what you write and it's the reason I can so easily slap-down your nonsense.

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The film > what you imagine

Originally posted by quanchi112
He did not need to walk. He moved his arm forward thus Dumbledore acted because he knew his bubble was done for. Voldemort doesn't need to walk to use magic. The guy flies all the time. 🙂

No, you make no sense and act like Dumbledore is a putz. He isn't. He knew Voldemort was breaking free and wanted Harry as far back as possible because Voldemort was bringing the heat. I'm a ****ing great debater.

He and Harry's friends helped but he could not magically help. Voldemort is awesome.

Not in the special features of the films. Voldemort let was said to be the greatest wizard. Films only. I cited differences and books are invalid sources of info on the forum. Quit breaking the rules because I'm amazing and correct.

He was slashing his hands around.

You can't fight the facts. This isn't my interpretation this is just the facts.

Whether he is awesome is a matter of opinion and does not help your argument. You make it sound as if just because he couldn't do anything that doesn't make him powerful. So if that's the case voldemort isn't as powerful as he couldn't take out mcgonagall when they fought one on one for a period of time.

Author> special features. If the author says Dumbledore is the most powerful than that's just it.