Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by Robtard
You said Dumbledore fled because he was a coward and that he could have allowed himself to be captured instead. Which as pointed out, means you didn't pay attention to the story. Being captured would have meant a win for Voldermort, as no special training for Harry or hunting of the Horcruxes could have happened with Dumbledore out of the picture. This is too easy.

edit: Now you know who could have fought and fought to kill but decided to run away instead? Yeah, you know it's Voldermort 🙂

Amazing how we are on the same side. 😂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Amazing how we are on the same side. 😂

I'm on the side of factual facts and truth-y truths 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm on the side of factual facts and truth-y truths 👆

I understand. Just better for us to be on the same team.

There are no "teams" here. It's quanchi112 making up stuff/lies and everyone else going "No, that's not true; here's the proof" and then he does flips, lots and lots of flips.

Be careful though, if you prove him wrong enough times, he'll get butthurt and obsessed with you, then he'll start demanding you send him pics and/or Skype with him. <--- This isn't a joke, it's happened

Quan chi. Let me put it to you bluntly.

Voldemort feared Dumbledore. The moment Dumbledore walked into the room the smile on voldemorts face disappeared. Then when he attacked he could never beat Dumbledore down even breaking off the engagement knowing that he could not defeat Dumbledore. Then when Dumbledore turned the glass into sand voldemort was flat out terrified. So what does that tell you. There is no proof that Dumbledore was afraid of voldemort as an individual.

Originally posted by Robtard
There are no "teams" here. It's quanchi112 making up stuff/lies and everyone else going "No, that's not true; here's the proof" and then he does flips, lots and lots of flips.

Be careful though, if you prove him wrong enough times, he'll get butthurt and obsessed with you, then he'll start demanding you send him pics and/or Skype with him. <--- This isn't a joke, it's happened

That's happened to me by a Revan fan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
it is the same lengths he goes to protect Harry. You disagreeing with a fact isn't going to change the fact.

You regress into a child when I cite evidence. You deny like a child which reminds me of him.

No, he did not win. He fled. He fled with help. Voldemort accepted no help and wanted him one on one. Undeniable.

Voldemort wounded him and his horcurux did which is an extension of himself so yes he most certainly did. Do you know what a horcurux is ? 😆

Harry did not win he resisted. If I push you and you resist you don't claim you won the fight.

It's like saying Voldemort defeated Dumbledore's water bubble because he broke free. That's juggerman logic at its finest. 😂

That wasn't what we were talking about. You just brought it up to try to distract against the fact your point is ass

Done riding rob's nutz or are you going for another spin?

He survived as was his goal. Voldemort failed in his goal several times. Sounds like a loser to me

Ok, his Horcurux is interchangable with the man himself. Got it. So Ron killed Voldemort. Hermione killed Voldemort. Harry killed Voldemort a couple of times. Damn he really sucks 😂 😂 😂

It was a battle of wills, Vold was found wanting. He lost fair and square

Nope, Dumbledore lost focus and the bubble popped. Voldemort was just lucky

Originally posted by Robtard
You said Dumbledore fled because he was a coward and that he could have allowed himself to be captured instead. Which as pointed out, means you didn't pay attention to the story. Being captured would have meant a win for Voldermort, as no special training for Harry or hunting of the Horcruxes could have happened with Dumbledore out of the picture. This is too easy.

edit: Now you know who could have fought and fought to kill but decided to run away instead? Yeah, you know it's Voldermort 🙂

I already explained the differences but go ahead and do your fanfic thing again.m

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
We see him slashing case closed. What does him losing hai wand prove. No one was trying to disarm the other. Dumbledore was trying to drown him while voldemort was trying to escape. Your interpretation is foolish and illogical. Mine is based on facts and well rounded inferences.

We never see him but what do you think people do in the time we don't see them just sit there. Besides JK Rowling feels very strongly about that and she wants that in there whether or not we see it, it's there. Dumbledore is clearly the more powerful. Voldemort has no fears that Dumbledore can't counter. Dumbledore was a good guy so why would people fear him. If you cared to watch the 5th movie of the series clearly people were becoming scared of him. Becoming immortal, yes this is impressive however he couldn't make himself truly immortal could he? Making yourself immortal, I'm pretty sure anyone who is willing to go far enough could do it.

Your stance is Dumbledore was stupid and allowed Voldemort to break free because he's a moron.

False. Her scenes were changed around all the time. She speaks for the books not the films. Clearly different. I cited differences and special features which addresses the movie versions supports these characters. Citing the books is agains the rules.

So now everyone had the knowledge and know how to create horcruxes ? The movies made it clear Voldemort manipulated a teacher to get the information and that he was a something even at that young age to be reckoned with. You saying this was no feat is just being delusional. 🙂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What evidence this is all your interpretation and opinion. Robtard beats you dude. Feats that are matched by Dumbledore, zero evidence, duel was a stalemate and Dumbledore was winning, special features<author.

Everyone else>>>>>>>>your wishful thinking.

Special features applies to the films. Writer applies to the books. Movie versus are movie feats only. 🙂

Dumbledore never destroyed hogwarts shield with the wand resisting him. Boom.

Voldemort was also winning whereas Dumbledore had the most powerful wand ever.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Quan chi. Let me put it to you bluntly.

Voldemort feared Dumbledore. The moment Dumbledore walked into the room the smile on voldemorts face disappeared. Then when he attacked he could never beat Dumbledore down even breaking off the engagement knowing that he could not defeat Dumbledore. Then when Dumbledore turned the glass into sand voldemort was flat out terrified. So what does that tell you. There is no proof that Dumbledore was afraid of voldemort as an individual.

By your own account Voldemort is truly courageous since he fought him and his fear. 🙂

Voldemort was annoyed and decided to change tactics. Dumbledore then looked on in fear at his own helpless because he could not magically protect Harry.

I right you're wrong. Get over it.

Originally posted by juggerman
That wasn't what we were talking about. You just brought it up to try to distract against the fact your point is ass

Done riding rob's nutz or are you going for another spin?

He survived as was his goal. Voldemort failed in his goal several times. Sounds like a loser to me

Ok, his Horcurux is interchangable with the man himself. Got it. So Ron killed Voldemort. Hermione killed Voldemort. Harry killed Voldemort a couple of times. Damn he really sucks 😂 😂 😂

It was a battle of wills, Vold was found wanting. He lost fair and square

Nope, Dumbledore lost focus and the bubble popped. Voldemort was just lucky

You are just like him. Pitiful.

A piece of him. The others were inanimate objects but not Nagini. A piece of his soul was in Nagini so like I said Voldemort killed him.

Context. Continue to act like a child because you were unaware Nagini was a horcrux or what the term meant.

Harry resisted. Dumbledore lost the battle of wills when Voldemort broke free from the water bubble. Voldemort won. Juggerman 101.
😂

False. Voldemort used his wand to break free and Dumbledore knew it so he knocked Harry back right after Voldemort did so. I am ****ing amazing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was determined to take him on at this point. He even says as much. By your own

By your own account Voldemort is truly courageous since he fought him and his fear. 🙂

Voldemort was annoyed and decided to change tactics. Dumbledore then looked on in fear at his own helpless because he could not magically protect Harry.

I right you're wrong. Get over it.

Alright quanchi. I've watched the special features. Now there are some things wrong with this you trying to pull that off.

1. That lady was not the author

2. She quoted from the book. A quote that can be translated in many ways and if it has one definition it means that Dumbledore doesn't delve deep into the dark magic like voldemort does. So when she said that she based it off of that line. That line is true there are powers that Dumbledore will never have, because he doesn't want to. There is a difference between having and understanding. Dumbledore no doubt understood that power just chose not to use them. He is a light sider, it's like yoda understands force lightning but just doesn't use it yet it doesn't make him less powerful than say Dooku who has powers yoda will never have. So you see that line is way to controversial as her opionion was stated by herself and never again by anyone else. Again saying that Dumbledore has said voldemort has powers Dumbledore will never have is not saying that he's better it's just saying that there is magic Dumbledore doesn't delve into as far as voldemort. It doesn't make him less powerful or anything. So you must now withdraw your Special Features argument as you now have absolutely no leg to stand on. 💃

3. JK Rowling says that Dumbledore is the most powerful.

JK Rowling>that woman

Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't know if he would have been out of the picture indefinitely captured since he had many allies and supporters. You assuming he would have been out of play forever is just rampant speculation. It's awful.

I already explained the differences but go ahead and do your fanfic thing again.m

Continue ignoring the story because it doesn't fit your narrative in having Dumbledore being a "coward" 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Continue ignoring the story because it doesn't fit your narrative in having Dumbledore being a "coward" 😂

🙂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Alright quanchi. I've watched the special features. Now there are some things wrong with this you trying to pull that off.

1. That lady was not the author

2. She quoted from the book. A quote that can be translated in many ways and if it has one definition it means that Dumbledore doesn't delve deep into the dark magic like voldemort does. So when she said that she based it off of that line. That line is true there are powers that Dumbledore will never have, because he doesn't want to. There is a difference between having and understanding. Dumbledore no doubt understood that power just chose not to use them. He is a light sider, it's like yoda understands force lightning but just doesn't use it yet it doesn't make him less powerful than say Dooku who has powers yoda will never have. So you see that line is way to controversial as her opionion was stated by herself and never again by anyone else. Again saying that Dumbledore has said voldemort has powers Dumbledore will never have is not saying that he's better it's just saying that there is magic Dumbledore doesn't delve into as far as voldemort. It doesn't make him less powerful or anything. So you must now withdraw your Special Features argument as you now have absolutely no leg to stand on. 💃

3. JK Rowling says that Dumbledore is the most powerful.

JK Rowling>that woman

2. Speculation on your end. I cited that along with evidence. Greater feats, etc.

3. Book version is not the movie version. It's also against the rules.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was determined to take him on at this point. He even says as much. By your own

By your own account Voldemort is truly courageous since he fought him and his fear. 🙂

Voldemort was annoyed and decided to change tactics. Dumbledore then looked on in fear at his own helpless because he could not magically protect Harry.

Im right. Emperor Sidous is right.Get over it.

1. Facts get over it. Voldemort was afraid.

2. Voldemort is voldemort I don't care about his courage as it doesn't detract from his skill so courage is not my area of concentration at this moment.

3. Annoyed or just couldn't win. Sidious was annoyed at yoda because he knew neither could overcome the other. Dumbledore was on defense the whole time except that one spell so we don't know what else he could have done and neither did voldemort that why he wanted to end it. Get over it. How does Dumbledore looking helpless help your case? That doesn't prove Dumbledore is less than voldemort or. Vice versa. That proves that Harry Can beat voldemort.

Claims someone is speculating, then makes a speculation himself. Good job embarrassing yourself 👆

"Dumbledore is a coward". Clowny nonsense like that is the reason no one takes your seriously and just mocks you in here. You're harmless.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
1. Facts get over it. Voldemort was afraid.

2. Voldemort is voldemort I don't care about his courage as it doesn't detract from his skill so courage is not my area of concentration at this moment.

3. Annoyed or just couldn't win. Sidious was annoyed at yoda because he knew neither could overcome the other. Dumbledore was on defense the whole time except that one spell so we don't know what else he could have done and neither did voldemort that why he wanted to end it. Get over it. How does Dumbledore looking helpless help your case? That doesn't prove Dumbledore is less than voldemort or. Vice versa. That proves that Harry Can beat voldemort.

1. Your interpretation isn't a fact. Do you know what the word fact means. His own body language doesn't display fear at all.

2. Concession accepted.

3. He didn't have a lot of time and wanted to be gone before the others showed up. He changed tactics. That's all. Dumbledore shit his pants for Harry.

Sidious just had to survive and got the better of Yoda. 😂 p
No, Harry resisted him, Voldemort disarmed Harry which means he defeated him. That's a duel, dude.

Voldemort's feats, power, and legacy were far greater than Dumbledore. What resigned Dumbledore to death, again ?

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Movies only. Books don't matter here. Quit breaking the rules.

2. Speculation on your end. I cited that along with evidence. Greater feats, etc.

3. Book version is not the movie version. It's also against the rules.

1. How am I using the books. I simply said the person you gained your information from wasn't the author that was simply her opinion vs the word of the author. Rowling has supreme control over all Harry Potter and if she says Dumbledore is the greatest than that's the fact.

2. No it's not it's true. There is magic that voldemort will never have that Dumbledore has such as love. The most powerful magic of all. This is not speculation this is true. So does this mean your argument falls apart as the information you received was from the book. Since you say the books don't count does that mean that you have killed your own source as that's where she got her information from. Also this isn't speculation. If I say you have powers that I will never have that doesn't mean you are more powerful that just means you have worked In areas that I just haven't or practice a side of magic that I don't. Either way it goes that does not mean he is more powerful than Dumbledore so that leg of yours is gone.

3. JK Rowling is the queen. What she says is the law of Harry Potter. Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard.