Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Started by EmperorSidious2183 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Harry was behind him. Voldemort looked quicker in their duel.. He was on the offensive much more than Dumbledore. Dumbledore failed to stop the possession. Oh well.

Dumbledore fell on his ass not Tom. Tom left when the Aurors showed up. Watch the film.

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1. Well that quickness and being the offensive most of the time didn't win him the duel did it? 😂 How is that a bad showing for Dumbledore again. He isn't in Harry's Mind all he can do is protect his own. So not really a bad showing for Dumbledore.

With a spell that had to sent in all directions with forcefulness. Shame voldemort can't knock him out with something else that goes straight at Dumbledore. Tom stopped fighting Dumbledore before that this proving Tom couldn't beat him.

Now that your special features argument has been crushed so what else do you have.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, because you're clearly wrong. Voldemort dictated the fight. Dumbledore held the greatest wand ever and was unable to defeat Voldemort. Dumbledore also failed to protect and stop the possession of Harry. Dumbledore earned himself a death sentence because he was foolish when dealing with Voldemort dark magic.

Doesn't Voldemort himself point out how Dumbledore wasn't going all out because he did not want to kill him?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said he was protecting Harry and I said he was in another situation with the same methods. Kill who is after Harry. He failed to kill Voldemort. Undeniable.

You are just like him. Pitiful.

A piece of him. The others were inanimate objects but not Nagini. A piece of his soul was in Nagini so like I said Voldemort killed him.

Context. Continue to act like a child because you were unaware Nagini was a horcrux or what the term meant.

Harry resisted. Dumbledore lost the battle of wills when Voldemort broke free from the water bubble. Voldemort won. Juggerman 101.
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False. Voldemort used his wand to break free and Dumbledore knew it so he knocked Harry back right after Voldemort did so. I am ****ing amazing.

He was protecting Harry against a skilled duelist not mindless creatures. Again you've failed

Still riding the peen I see.

You clearly didn't know how Snape died and after I schooled you, you do flips to save face. You are a joke. According to you Ron killed Voldemort 😂 😂

Harry beat him at his own game and Vold tried to save face. Just like you clown.

Voldemort was helpless until Dumbledore's focus was broken. Harry saved Voldemort. Facts!

Well Harry had a lot of help beating Voldemort let us be fair. Most of that help came from Voldemort himself. For someone who can read minds he sure decides to not take advantage of such abilities when they would come in handy. Like maybe when the kid who just came back from your death spell for a second time might be telling the truth about how you might not want to attack him with the most powerful wand in the world that just failed to kill him.

But nope, obviously the best strategy is to snarl and repeat the exact same thing that has failed you on multiple occasions.

Tommy boy has always been a moron and a coward, so that was perfectly in character.

Yeah, but he's a specific type of coward though that needs to be said. He wasn't exactly afraid of a fight, is what I mean. He was more afraid of things like..hugs and feelings.

Then again he was the product of magical rape so who knows if that caused him to be born..wrong.

He was also afraid of a newborn baby.

The fight itself was a stalemate.

Dumbledore was actively protecting Harry though during the duel, we saw this. Tom said that Albus would be dead by the time the ministry arrived but failed to do so. So based on their objectives, Albus was able to protect Harry and Tom failed to kill Albus and had to retreat. It also doesn't help Voldy that once he realized he couldn't defeat Albus, he went straight for Harry, and once again failed at that. You could say Albus won, sorta.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
1. Rowling>Director applies to everything. First chapter of the book A chat between Mcgonagall and Snape and you will find the words Voldemort will have powers I will never have. Also Dumbledore says that Harry has a power that lives in your very skin, something that voldmelrt does not have. The director has never said that he was the most powerful only that lady who we have never seen before.

2. Direct quote in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets twice. Duel in Harry Potter of the order of the Phoenix that duel was really voldemort retreating as he had no more tricks up his sleeve to where he could out duel or out match Dumbledore.

3. Your wrong Opinion however it your opinion.

1. Incorrect. Movie feats only. Against the rules. Movies were a lot different than books. Special features called Voldemort the greatest wizard he is. Throw feats, legacy in and it's a landslide.

2. Provide the quote. By all means.

3. What ?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
1. Well that quickness and being the offensive most of the time didn't win him the duel did it? 😂 How is that a bad showing for Dumbledore again. He isn't in Harry's Mind all he can do is protect his own. So not really a bad showing for Dumbledore.

With a spell that had to sent in all directions with forcefulness. Shame voldemort can't knock him out with something else that goes straight at Dumbledore. Tom stopped fighting Dumbledore before that this proving Tom couldn't beat him.

Neither did taking the defensive. See what I did there.

So he was unable to protect him. Let it go. It's a fact.

Bs. Dumbledore was given a death sentence by Voldemort's dark magic. Shame the old coot didn't see that coming. In the end he outplayed Dumbledore. Hard.

Originally posted by Surtur
Doesn't Voldemort himself point out how Dumbledore wasn't going all out because he did not want to kill him?
When does he say this ? We see Dumbledore twice try to kill Voldemort.

Originally posted by juggerman
He was protecting Harry against a skilled duelist not mindless creatures. Again you've failed

Still riding the peen I see.

You clearly didn't know how Snape died and after I schooled you, you do flips to save face. You are a joke. According to you Ron killed Voldemort 😂 😂

Harry beat him at his own game and Vold tried to save face. Just like you clown.

Voldemort was helpless until Dumbledore's focus was broken. Harry saved Voldemort. Facts!

I didn't say his opponents were the same you fool. I said he tried to destroy all who opposed him. You're so dumb sometimes.

Still acting like a child I see.

Yes, I did. Naginin was ordered to kill him but this was a part of Voldemort. Horcrux, boob. After he made him bleed his snake Horcrux finished him off.

Harry resisted and laid on. Voldemort mocked him and his ways.

False. He slashed his wand forward thus breaking it. You claim Dumbledore allowed him to escape because he's an idiot. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I didn't say his opponents were the same you fool. I said he tried to destroy all who opposed him. You're so dumb sometimes.

Still acting like a child I see.

Yes, I did. Naginin was ordered to kill him but this was a part of Voldemort. Horcrux, boob. After he made him bleed his snake Horcrux finished him off.

Harry resisted and laid on. Voldemort mocked him and his ways.

False. He slashed his wand forward thus breaking it. You claim Dumbledore allowed him to escape because he's an idiot. 😂

Still trying to distract as always. You really suck at this

Still stroking the stick I see

No you didn't. Now you're back peddling with your "well what I meant was..." bullshit. You clearly didn't know who killed him and made yourself look like even more of an idiot. But you can't have it both ways kid; if they are interchangable then Voldemort was easily killed by sidekicks like Ron and Neville. Sucks for you derp boy

Harry kicked Tom's ass out of his head. Tom tried to save face but was still a failure

Dumbledore pushed Harry and as a result released Tommy. He should have thanked Potter for saving him from the big bad Albus

Originally posted by juggerman
Still trying to distract as always. You really suck at this

Still stroking the stick I see

No you didn't. Now you're back peddling with your "well what I meant was..." bullshit. You clearly didn't know who killed him and made yourself look like even more of an idiot. But you can't have it both ways kid; if they are interchangable then Voldemort was easily killed by sidekicks like Ron and Neville. Sucks for you derp boy

Harry kicked Tom's ass out of his head. Tom tried to save face but was still a failure

Dumbledore pushed Harry and as a result released Tommy. he should have thanked Potter for saving him from the big bad Albus

You failed to understand my point even though I've repeatedly told you. Horrifying.

Immaturity rules, eh ?

Nagini did which has a piece of Voldemorts soul. That's indisputable so once again Voldemort killed him. A Horcrux was with a legendary weapon while it attacked someone else. I look at the facts. You don't.

No, he resisted and was in the supine position. Voldemort mocked him. Dumbledore looked on in terror.

So you believe he was stuck and Dumbledore foolishly released him. You're an idiot. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You failed to understand my point even though I've repeatedly told you. Horrifying.

Immaturity rules, eh ?

Nagini did which has a piece of Voldemorts soul. That's indisputable so once again Voldemort killed him. A Horcrux was with a legendary weapon while it attacked someone else. I look at the facts. You don't.

No, he resisted and was in the supine position. Voldemort mocked him. Dumbledore looked on in terror.

So you believe he was stuck and Dumbledore foolishly released him. You're an idiot. 😂

You failed to make a valid point. Dumbledore reacted differently as the situations called for different approaches. Again you failed

Smoking the pole still?

Ok great, you agree Voldemort was killed by Ron and again by Neville. You're clearly an idiot

He overcame Voldemort's feeble attempt. Vold tried to save face but looked foolish

Vold didn't get out until after Harry's assist. Clear as day boy. You should actually watch the movies one day

Originally posted by juggerman
You failed to make a valid point. Dumbledore reacted differently as the situations called for different approaches. Again you failed

Smoking the pole still?

Ok great, you agree Voldemort was killed by Ron and again by Neville. You're clearly an idiot

He overcame Voldemort's feeble attempt. Vold tried to save face but looked foolish

Vold didn't get out until after Harry's assist. Clear as day boy. You should actually watch the movies one day

He tried destroying the threats. I didn't say he walked the same, talked the same, I said he wanted to destroy those who threatened him. Undeniable, Robbie.

I don't do drugs. I bet you do.

A part of him was. That's the whole point of destroying the horcruxes you idiot. He soul was split. I never said each Horcrux had the same abilities, nitwit.

So Dumbledore was shitting bricks because the darkest wizard just had a feeble attempt ? The minister of magic looked like he was scared shitlrss because he saw Voldemort let but no big deal, Robbie.

You just repeat nonsense.

Voldemort clearly wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Incorrect. Movie feats only. Against the rules. Movies were a lot different than books. Special features called Voldemort the greatest wizard he is. Throw feats, legacy in and it's a landslide.

2. Provide the quote. By all means.

3. What ?

1. Actually she is. She rules all of Harry Potter. One person who wasn't the director so really it was her opinion. Dumbledore feats match dumbledores, and his legacy matches of not exceeds voldmelrts.

2. Page 11 chapter one of the Sorcerrs Stone, Dumbledore states, "You flatter me" Voldemort has powers I will never have". He states this yes but he knows that there are powers he will never have. This does not mean Voldemort is more powerful. This means that the dark arts Voldemort invested in so heavily Dumbledore didn't. While Dumbledore has an understanding and a knowledge he will never have those powers as he doesn't want to.

3. This is your opinion. It's the wrong opinion but it's your opinion.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He was also afraid of a newborn baby.

He was afraid the baby would grow up to kill him because of a magic prophecy. He still tried to murder that baby.

He just read this article so you can't blame him:

http://www.cracked.com/article_18404_6-shockingly-evil-things-babies-are-capable-of.html

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
1. Actually she is. She rules all of Harry Potter. One person who wasn't the director so really it was her opinion. Dumbledore feats match dumbledores, and his legacy matches of not exceeds voldmelrts.

2. Page 11 chapter one of the Sorcerrs Stone, Dumbledore states, "You flatter me" Voldemort has powers I will never have". He states this yes but he knows that there are powers he will never have. This does not mean Voldemort is more powerful. This means that the dark arts Voldemort invested in so heavily Dumbledore didn't. While Dumbledore has an understanding and a knowledge he will never have those powers as he doesn't want to.

3. This is your opinion. It's the wrong opinion but it's your opinion.

1. False. She didn't direct the films. Yates changed key points. Another director also changed Voldemorts eyes from what she intended. You continuously restating your opinion without evidence is baseless.

What feats ? What legacy ?

2. Book is irrelevant and against the rules. Read the rules, noob.

3. All you do is state your opinion and argue against my evidence, etc.