Originally posted by quanchi112
1. False. She didn't direct the films. Yates changed key points. Another director also changed Voldemorts eyes from what she intended. You continuously restating your opinion without evidence is baseless.What feats ? What legacy ?
2. Book is irrelevant and against the rules. Read the rules, noob.
3. All you do is state your opinion and argue against my evidence, etc.
You have been defeated on this point. Rowling is the last say and also the director or producers never say Voldemort is the more powerful just some lady who has no say in the making of Harry Potter, someone who we never see again, someone who is just there. Feats, everything he has done in the movies, such as firestorm stale mating and nearly defeating the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time, defeating the 2nd most powerful dark wizard of all time who had and was the true owner of the elder wand, taking voldmelrts fire and taming it to his will with ease, capturing Voldemort in a sphere of water, taking on any attack Voldemort can throw, being the only wizard Voldemort ever truly feared, unraveled voldmelrts plan, tricked voldmert and so on and so forth.
The legacy he has left behind, thought of by renowned witches and wizards as the most powerful wizard of all time, left witches and wizards while he was a first year amazed at what he could do more than any gaining the recognition of being the best most talented student that the school has ever seen with Voldemort coming in second, defeating the great wizard grindlewald , being the wizarding worlds protector from Voldemort which he did quite nicely, wielding the elder wand for the longest and being the true owner, being the best headmaster hogwarts had ever seen. So Dumbledore definitely has the legacy and the feats to compete wi Voldemort and defeat him in an out right duel.
2. So that means that your special features quote in non valid as the person directly got her information from the book and since the books don't count you have lost that piece of evidence.
3. What evidence. You have no evidence.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So you believe some ******* somehow spoke in the special features and that it carries no weight ? How did the person get on there to make the cut if it was just ridiculous. Movie feats only. Read the rules.
You have been defeated on this point. Rowling is the last say and also the director or producers never say Voldemort is the more powerful just some lady who has no say in the making of Harry Potter, someone who we never see again, someone who is just there. Feats, everything he has done in the movies, such as firestorm stale mating and nearly defeating the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time, defeating the 2nd most powerful dark wizard of all time who had and was the true owner of the elder wand, taking voldmelrts fire and taming it to his will with ease, capturing Voldemort in a sphere of water, taking on any attack Voldemort can throw, being the only wizard Voldemort ever truly feared, unraveled voldmelrts plan, tricked voldmert and so on and so forth.The legacy he has left behind, thought of by renowned witches and wizards as the most powerful wizard of all time, left witches and wizards while he was a first year amazed at what he could do more than any gaining the recognition of being the best most talented student that the school has ever seen with Voldemort coming in second, defeating the great wizard grindlewald , being the wizarding worlds protector from Voldemort which he did quite nicely, wielding the elder wand for the longest and being the true owner, being the best headmaster hogwarts had ever seen. So Dumbledore definitely has the legacy and the feats to compete wi Voldemort and defeat him in an out right duel.
2. So that means that your special features quote in non valid as the person directly got her information from the book and since the books don't count you have lost that piece of evidence.
3. What evidence. You have no evidence.
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!
We don't see his battle with grin on film but we see he clearly can't defeat Voldemort. The firestorm pales in comparison to the hogwarts shield feat so try again. The wand resisted him as well for this feat.
He countered Voldemort just like Voldemort countered him. Difference is Dumbledore had the baddest wand in the planet and failed to best Voldemort.
He died. Others had to fight against Voldemort. Voldemort killed Snape. Voldemort broke free from the water sphere and unleashed hell on the old timer.
Voldemort's dark magic ensured Dumbledore's death. 😂
What wizard stated this in the films ? We saw the wizards shit bricks with Voldemort around but not so with Dumbledore who was opposed left and right.
2. She spoke for the films not the books. Quit making shit up because you're salty movie Voldemort > movie Dumbledore.
3. I already told you why. Also quit breaking the rules which are
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal.
MOVIE FEATS ONLY!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dumbledore has not. Speculation. Movie special features makes it clear who the baddest is. Evidence. 😂
Now you are just denying plain old facts. Well I mean if books don't count than she doesn't count as her indformation came from the book. One person says something that is her own opinion. You have no evidence.
I will admit that even though Dumbledore wasn't trying to kill him..the fact he had the Elder Wand and still couldn't take out Voldemort makes you wonder about their overall skill. If you took and gave them both generic wands to fight with, who wins?
Did Grindewald get the Elder Wand prior to when he first met Dumbledore?
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Books count for the books. Movie feats only. I supported my claims whereas you keep breaking the rules by spouting about books.
Now you are just denying plain old facts. Well I mean if books don't count than she doesn't count as her indformation came from the book. One person says something that is her own opinion. You have no evidence.
Inadmissible and irrelevant here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe some ******* somehow spoke in the special features and that it carries no weight ? How did the person get on there to make the cut if it was just ridiculous. Movie feats only. Read the rules.The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!We don't see his battle with grin on film but we see he clearly can't defeat Voldemort. The firestorm pales in comparison to the hogwarts shield feat so try again. The wand resisted him as well for this feat.
He countered Voldemort just like Voldemort countered him. Difference is Dumbledore had the baddest wand in the planet and failed to best Voldemort.
He died. Others had to fight against Voldemort. Voldemort killed Snape. Voldemort broke free from the water sphere and unleashed hell on the old timer.
Voldemort's dark magic ensured Dumbledore's death. 😂
What wizard stated this in the films ? We saw the wizards shit bricks with Voldemort around but not so with Dumbledore who was opposed left and right.
2. She spoke for the films not the books. Quit making shit up because you're salty movie Voldemort > movie Dumbledore.
3. I already told you why. Also quit breaking the rules which are
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal.[B] MOVIE FEATS ONLY!
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That was her own opinion not the truth get over it. Also Rowling counts in anything Harry Potter.
Well these are his feats and he Dumbledore clearly has all that he needs to take on Voldemort and win. Legacies is in dumbledores favor, he has the better legacy as he has accomplished more in his life and has the longer life.
And we clearly see that Voldemort can't beat Dumbledore either. So what is your point. Actually Dumbledore can beat Voldemort he was going to if 1. Harry didn't get in the way, 2. Voldemort didn't have Horcuxes, 3 Voldemort had run away like a little b****. So sow thing that someone can make completely in their own vs something that was clearly already being penetrated. While doing what he did is impressive firestorm is better as it engulfed the entire cave, warded off the inferi that Voldemort himself enchanted, that also went under water and was not extinguished,while voldmelrt took down a shield that was already broken and he was empowered by his anger and pain. So yes firestorm is an impressive feat. Putting these on a feat scale isn't helping. He has his own wand and we see what he is capable of with his own wand so not really going to help Voldemort. Also didn't the wand basically kill inside. It broke itself Ina way so do I g that and than having the wand break is not an impressive feat.
Well actually you are wrong. All of Dumbledores offensive attacks Expelliarmus, water spell, and fire attack repelled Dumbledore to change tactics or he was incapacitated while voldmelrt can t say the same, so Dumbledore wins. Also who was the one running in the end of that duel?
Ok your point is. Killing snape in the way he did is not a feat worth noticing for Voldemort as he didn't defeat him in combat or any type of duel. Released Hell hm? So being able to block his spells like he did, then turning the glass into sand, then having him look you in the eye with a scared expression. You are supporting the wrong side. 😂
Point is?
What wizard states him as a great wizard. Hermione, Harry, Voldemort, Snape, Kingsley Shacklebolt. You make it sound like because he wasn't making people just scared left and right you make it sound like that's a detract ion of power. Well Voldemort fears him and then the wizarding world feared him in the fifth book asking if he was daft or dangerous.
That makes no sense. Why wouldn't the director speak on his behalf of the film he directed or the producer. She spoke on her own behalf not the movie. So she may say something but she doesn't represent the entire movie. Stop taking things out of context.
I'm not breaking any rules.
So you can't use special features anymore.
albus never killed Grindaulwald there for he was never able to wield the elder wand fully, and he still scared the shit out of voldermort.
this is confirmed in the movie (i think it was harry seeing grindaulwald being tortured by voldermort as to where to find the elderwand)
this is what set the search/ uncovering of the elderwand and the other deathly hallow items
*drops mic on Quans foot*
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Based on what ? That's your opinion on an online forum where it states movie feats only. 😂
That was her own opinion not the truth get over it. Also Rowling counts in anything Harry Potter.Well these are his feats and he Dumbledore clearly has all that he needs to take on Voldemort and win. Legacies is in dumbledores favor, he has the better legacy as he has accomplished more in his life and has the longer life.
And we clearly see that Voldemort can't beat Dumbledore either. So what is your point. Actually Dumbledore can beat Voldemort he was going to if 1. Harry didn't get in the way, 2. Voldemort didn't have Horcuxes, 3 Voldemort had run away like a little b****. So sow thing that someone can make completely in their own vs something that was clearly already being penetrated. While doing what he did is impressive firestorm is better as it engulfed the entire cave, warded off the inferi that Voldemort himself enchanted, that also went under water and was not extinguished,while voldmelrt took down a shield that was already broken and he was empowered by his anger and pain. So yes firestorm is an impressive feat. Putting these on a feat scale isn't helping. He has his own wand and we see what he is capable of with his own wand so not really going to help Voldemort. Also didn't the wand basically kill inside. It broke itself Ina way so do I g that and than having the wand break is not an impressive feat.
Well actually you are wrong. All of Dumbledores offensive attacks Expelliarmus, water spell, and fire attack repelled Dumbledore to change tactics or he was incapacitated while voldmelrt can t say the same, so Dumbledore wins. Also who was the one running in the end of that duel?
Ok your point is. Killing snape in the way he did is not a feat worth noticing for Voldemort as he didn't defeat him in combat or any type of duel. Released Hell hm? So being able to block his spells like he did, then turning the glass into sand, then having him look you in the eye with a scared expression. You are supporting the wrong side. 😂
Point is?
What wizard states him as a great wizard. Hermione, Harry, Voldemort, Snape, Kingsley Shacklebolt. You make it sound like because he wasn't making people just scared left and right you make it sound like that's a detract ion of power. Well Voldemort fears him and then the wizarding world feared him in the fifth book asking if he was daft or dangerous.
That makes no sense. Why wouldn't the director speak on his behalf of the film he directed or the producer. She spoke on her own behalf not the movie. So she may say something but she doesn't represent the entire movie. Stop taking things out of context.
I'm not breaking any rules.
So you can't use special features anymore.
No, he did not. Voldemort was the darkest/greatest wizard. He was the one who took over the wizarding world. Dumbledore was at hogwarts. Hmmmm. Which is better ?
Speculation. Voldemort slashed his wand and then he moved Harry back because he knew what was coming. We've been over this but why not one more time.
Voldemort left because he was greatly outnumbered. Dumbledore fled when they tried to arrest him. Voldemort already intended to leave and announced as much. Quit making excuses.
Destroying the shield without the full cooperation of an elder wand is the most impressive power feat of the entire film. Hands down.
Knocked Dumbledore on his ass. Voldemort let came out of the water bubble like a ****ing champ. Poor old guy. Dark magic got him in the end from Voldemort. Poor old coot.
Everyone feared Voldemort. Dumbledore is great just not the greatest. Watch the special features if you want the answer.
😂 😂
Movie feats only. You citing Rowling is breaking the rules, ninny.
Yes, I can. Relevant to the films.
🙂
Originally posted by Surtur
I will admit that even though Dumbledore wasn't trying to kill him..the fact he had the Elder Wand and still couldn't take out Voldemort makes you wonder about their overall skill. If you took and gave them both generic wands to fight with, who wins?Did Grindewald get the Elder Wand prior to when he first met Dumbledore?
Having the elder wand is not an ultimate trump card, especially against a wizard of great skill. However in the duel Dumbledore was actually able to,gain ground so no I don't wonder about the overall skill since I know that Dumbledore is better. When they first met they did not have the elder wand, grindlewald obtained it from its previous owner by disarming or overpowering the opponent which is all you have to do. Dumbledore then went on to defeat grindlewald so he then became the owner of the elder wand.
Originally posted by Genesis-SoldierDumbledore shows up and Voldemort let takes him on. 😂
albus never killed Grindaulwald there for he was never able to wield the elder wand fully, and he still scared the shit out of voldermort.this is confirmed in the movie (i think it was harry seeing grindaulwald being tortured by voldermort as to where to find the elderwand)
this is what set the search/ uncovering of the elderwand and the other deathly hallow items*drops mic on Quans foot*
Voldemort was laughing during their fight. Quit saying dumb things. His dark magic later sealed Dumbledore's death. Facts.