Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ? That's your opinion on an online forum where it states movie feats only. 😂

No, he did not. Voldemort was the darkest/greatest wizard. He was the one who took over the wizarding world. Dumbledore was at hogwarts. Hmmmm. Which is better ?

Speculation. Voldemort slashed his wand and then he moved Harry back because he knew what was coming. We've been over this but why not one more time.

Voldemort left because he was greatly outnumbered. Dumbledore fled when they tried to arrest him. Voldemort already intended to leave and announced as much. Quit making excuses.

Destroying the shield without the full cooperation of an elder wand is the most impressive power feat of the entire film. Hands down.

Knocked Dumbledore on his ass. Voldemort let came out of the water bubble like a ****ing champ. Poor old guy. Dark magic got him in the end from Voldemort. Poor old coot.

Everyone feared Voldemort. Dumbledore is great just not the greatest. Watch the special features if you want the answer.
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Movie feats only. You citing Rowling is breaking the rules, ninny.

Yes, I can. Relevant to the films.

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She doesn't represent anything as in the films she is an author who isn't the queen of Harry Potter. Why wouldn't the directors or producers say it if it were true? This means that Dumbledore is the superior wizard.

Combine darkest and greatest and you get the correct answer Greatest Dark Wizard. So he is the greatest dark wizard like sidious is the greatest with lord he is not the greatest force weirder. Gods was a grand,aster of 10,000 while sidious was an emperor of thousands of planets yet the two are on par. Also Dumbledore had no want or need to gain power that's why he didn't accept the job as the minister for magic.

Voldemort slashed his hand. So based off of the movie, based off what we see what we all see, it's speculation to say that Voldemelrt can beat Dumbledore,when we see clearly that neither was winning the fight. If anyone was winning it was Dumbledore. You have lost this debate.

Stop making excuses. He stopped the duel with Dumbledore before anyone showed up and went to posses Harry so I call that running as no one was there yet and he cut the duel there since he knew he couldn't win.

Then the wand breaks. So even Voldemort is seceptabel to the rules. Opinion that being the best feat. So really using that power the wand breaks and Voldemort feels this. So try again.

Knocking Dumbledore over with an attack that needed to go,in every direction and was on a scale of destroying glass while Dumbledore can win direct precision matches. Again this doesn' help your case.

Except,Dumbleodre and Mcgonagall and Harry had the courage to go head to head. Dumbledore is the greatest that is just fact.

She based her quote off the books so her source is invalid per this cite and now she is no longer valid as it just her opinion and not fact.

DUMBLEDORE for the win.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
and yet the crafty bugger laid out the plan for toms demise

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, but that isn't what I referred to. His dark magic already gave Dumbledore a death sentence. He had a year to live. It was game over for geezer.

What does that prove, how does that help you, it doesn't show any good or bad showings for either team.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He died. Snape died. Voldemort killed his friend, Snape. Great going, Albus. Voldemort killed the guy who executed Dumbledore. 🙂

Again how does this help you?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What does that prove, how does that help you, it doesn't show any good or bad showings for either team.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again how does this help you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It shows your supposed greatest wizard ever fell to my greatest wizard ever. Great going, Voldemlrt.

1st problem. Using ABC logic. Voldemort killed snape not in straight combat he just slit his throat unexpectedly the. Had nagini kill him. So ABC can work. Now I knew you are stupid you ignored the entire section of the eight movie.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It shows the greatest wizard ever killing Snape while Dumbledore was killed by him. Dumbledore was downright pathetic in comparison to the dark lord. People wouldn't even utter his name while people mocked Dumbledore.

Please te feats they have and the legacies they leave behind are comparable to one another with to popular opinion and actual fact Dumbeldore is superior. Well one was evil the other was good so, Dumbledore wouldn't just go out killing people.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
1st problem. Using ABC logic. Voldemort killed snape not in straight combat he just slit his throat unexpectedly the. Had nagini kill him. So ABC can work. Now I knew you are stupid you ignored the entire section of the eight movie.

Undeniable.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Please te feats they have and the legacies they leave behind are comparable to one another with to popular opinion and actual fact Dumbeldore is superior. Well one was evil the other was good so, Dumbledore wouldn't just go out killing people.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He killed him and his dark magic gave Dumbledore a death sentence. Dumbledore plotted his ass off and still fell victim to Voldemort.

Undeniable.

You know what you try to just win these little things that don't help you. Dumbledores unfortunate death was by Severus Snape that is the truth. Whether he will die from that or not it doesn't matter it doesn't prove anyone's skill is above the other.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort's was more significant. He was far greater and was the leader of the death eaters. He rose to power. Dumbledore died. Sad.

Speculation. Speculation and Dumbledore was the leader of Hogwarts and the order of the Phoenix point is. So to do Dumbledore. What do you call Voldemort turning into that nasty stuff at the end of the last movie. Oh I know, it's called his death. Now that, that was sad.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He died. Snape died. Voldemort killed his friend, Snape. Great going, Albus. Voldemort killed the guy who executed Dumbledore. 🙂

Except saying Snape "executed" Dumbledore calls for a big explanation. Dumbledore had told Snape to do it. If I give you a gun and tell you to shoot me in the face, I'd be loathe to call you my "executioner". It's more like Dumbledore killed himself and just used Snape in order to do it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He tried destroying the threats. I didn't say he walked the same, talked the same, I said he wanted to destroy those who threatened him. Undeniable, Robbie.

I don't do drugs. I bet you do.

A part of him was. That's the whole point of destroying the horcruxes you idiot. He soul was split. I never said each Horcrux had the same abilities, nitwit.

So Dumbledore was shitting bricks because the darkest wizard just had a feeble attempt ? The minister of magic looked like he was scared shitlrss because he saw Voldemort let but no big deal, Robbie.

You just repeat nonsense.

Voldemort clearly wins.

There are several threats to Harry he didn't "want to destroy" so again your point is ass. I'd much rather be called Rob than Quan

That's not at all what that means 😂 😂 😂

So Ron and Neville killed Voldemort as per trollchi112. You fail at life son

It was pretty feeble if a child overcame it. Sad sad sad

Truth is nonsense to you

Vold loses once again

Originally posted by juggerman
I'd much rather be called Rob than Quan

His rage filled obsession is peaking, he can barely type a sentence to you without mentioning his butthurt towards me now. Good job, Jugs 👆

Originally posted by Surtur
Except saying Snape "executed" Dumbledore calls for a big explanation. Dumbledore had told Snape to do it. If I give you a gun and tell you to shoot me in the face, I'd be loathe to call you my "executioner". It's more like Dumbledore killed himself and just used Snape in order to do it.

I don't think it matters since nothing is comparable to being beaten by an average teenager.Tom was awesome at the beginning of the books, but by the end was lame. Typical big villain who turned out to be all hype. The scene where he gave Hogwarts an ultimatum was awesome, then you see him struggling to shake of Harry as he's flying lol.

Tom was never awesome, I mean some of the first things you find out about Tom was that he was afraid of a newborn baby and that Tom was so useless that the baby in question was able to beat him.

You guys are clearly selectively ignoring key parts of the movies. Voldemort wasn't beaten by an average teen. Average teenagers in HP are not born with the partial soul of incredibly powerful dark wizards that gives them some kind of deus ex machina connection to each other.

Harry didn't defeat Voldemort. People better then Harry gave him the correct tools, and even then it came down to Voldemort being retarded. Harry was kind of just there. Even with a stupid villain Harry more or less needed his hand held most of the time, even during times when he didn't even realize his hand was being held.

Also the baby didn't defeat him. A plot device spell cast by the baby momma is what defeated him. Plus also look at the raw power Harry threw around at times. An "average teen" he was not. Oh sure Hermoine knew way more spells then he did, but his raw power blew her out of the water. He was the most powerful member of Dumbledore's Army. You call a kid who barely has pubes and yet takes out a bunch of dementors by himself..average?

Ummm. When Voldermort died at the hands of teenager Harry, the Voldermort Horcrux inside of Harry had already been destroyed, by Voldermort no less.

Harry did indeed defeat Voldermort, it was a simple 'Good conquers Evil' trope.

So what do we have: Voldermort not being smart enough to know that infant baby Harry was protected and ended up pwning his own ass. Voldermort not being smart enough to know that trying to kill Harry would destroy one of his own Horcruxs. Voldermort not being smart enough in knowing that the Elder Wand he attacked Harry with was actually linked to Harry. Clearly, strategy isn't one of Voldermort's strengths.

Considering they went to a magic school for 7 years, It's kind of sad how pathetic the wizards/witches were in the HPverse.

Although it does make a certain amount of sense when you realize that even the smartest of them had at best a 5th grade education in non-magic related fields.