It can be argued that when Harry beat voldemort, voldemlrt had just suffered the loss of his last horcrux which damages him severely and since it was his last one, and his sole was already to far gone and just broken it could be argued that he was to weak to carry on. Either way it goes Voldmelrt is better than Harry, harry is powerful but he is no where near the dumbledore and Voldmelrt level, he is still on the kids level with Draco and Hermione being able to defeat Harry in a duel.
Originally posted by Silent Master
None of that was stated in the movie, so Harry's win over Tom is completely legit.
It's common sense if I hurt you and we are fighting you aren't going to be at full power so why would voldemlrt be at full power. Voldmelrt is clearly the more powerful of he and Harry. So while Harry beat Voldmelrt there were certain circumstances behind that duel.
Voldmelrt is clearly better than Harry and his horcruxes are the only explainable reason why he would lose to Harry in that way.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2She didn't make all the decisions for the films and is the queen of the books. The films took on a life of their own. I gave differences and movie feats only.
She doesn't represent anything as in the films she is an author who isn't the queen of Harry Potter. Why wouldn't the directors or producers say it if it were true? This means that Dumbledore is the superior wizard.Combine darkest and greatest and you get the correct answer Greatest Dark Wizard. So he is the greatest dark wizard like sidious is the greatest with lord he is not the greatest force weirder. Gods was a grand,aster of 10,000 while sidious was an emperor of thousands of planets yet the two are on par. Also Dumbledore had no want or need to gain power that's why he didn't accept the job as the minister for magic.
Voldemort slashed his hand. So based off of the movie, based off what we see what we all see, it's speculation to say that Voldemelrt can beat Dumbledore,when we see clearly that neither was winning the fight. If anyone was winning it was Dumbledore. You have lost this debate.
Stop making excuses. He stopped the duel with Dumbledore before anyone showed up and went to posses Harry so I call that running as no one was there yet and he cut the duel there since he knew he couldn't win.
Then the wand breaks. So even Voldemort is seceptabel to the rules. Opinion that being the best feat. So really using that power the wand breaks and Voldemort feels this. So try again.
Knocking Dumbledore over with an attack that needed to go,in every direction and was on a scale of destroying glass while Dumbledore can win direct precision matches. Again this doesn' help your case.
Except,Dumbleodre and Mcgonagall and Harry had the courage to go head to head. Dumbledore is the greatest that is just fact.
She based her quote off the books so her source is invalid per this cite and now she is no longer valid as it just her opinion and not fact.
DUMBLEDORE for the win.
So by your own conclusion dumbledore didn't want or crave power so it makes no sense for him to be the most powerful wizard.
He slashed his hand through the eater bubble thus destabilizing it. I say Voldemort was winning you say Dumbledore but the facts were that Voldemort was on the offensive more and didn't have the elder wand in his favor.
Despite the wand resisting him he had the greatest fest of the films. Undeniable.
It helps my case since he put him on his ass and looked very impressive on screen.
Prove she did. You continue to speculate so prove it. I have a fact and you're trying to poss and moan about it. Stands.
Voldemort for the win.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He chose the way he went out. He didn't choose the dark magic cursing him to a death in a year at most. Voldemort was greater. I didn't say this proves anything about a one on one battle just added this to his legacy.
You know what you try to just win these little things that don't help you. Dumbledores unfortunate death was by Severus Snape that is the truth. Whether he will die from that or not it doesn't matter it doesn't prove anyone's skill is above the other.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Voldemort and his death eaters rose to power over the wizarding world. Dumbledore did not so it's plain to see who is greater. Voldemort outlived dumbledore so he wasn't there to help.
Speculation. Speculation and Dumbledore was the leader of Hogwarts and the order of the Phoenix point is. So to do Dumbledore. What do you call Voldemort turning into that nasty stuff at the end of the last movie. Oh I know, it's called his death. Now that, that was sad.
Originally posted by SurturWrong. He had snaps execute him. Snake did not want to but he did carry out his execution.
Except saying Snape "executed" Dumbledore calls for a big explanation. Dumbledore had told Snape to do it. If I give you a gun and tell you to shoot me in the face, I'd be loathe to call you my "executioner". It's more like Dumbledore killed himself and just used Snape in order to do it.
Voldemort killed this wizard.