Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

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Originally posted by quanchi112
We see it break after Voldemort slashed. Why would Dumbledore break the hold if he was protecting Harry ?

2. Nonsense.

3. How did I ?

4. No, it is ironic.

6. Special features from the film. Counts, sport. You not figuring out the obvious they explain is your own problem.

8. You've never proven a point in your life.

Dude, I bet you can't even tie your own shoes yet.

We see it break after Dumbleodre TK's Harry back. He wants Harry back at distance, he needs Harry out of the way.

2. Prove me otherwise.

3. You trailed off from the original topic.

No it's not. You just can beat me. Never have and never will.

Commentary from the films should also count but guess what mod said they don't. It's just the films themselves, no commentary, most likely no deleted scenes, no nothing, just the films and in the films we see Dumbleodre is the better of the two.

Except Dumbeldore being more powerful than Voldmeort, Sidious beating Khan, Anakin beating Maul, Dooku beating Maul, and that your a troll, and Snape beats Khan.

I bet you don't even know how to hold a fork, that's how stupid you are. Your insults are just like arguments. A joke

Originally posted by quanchi112
Harry isn't the same thing as nagini nor as durable.

The differences have already been noted.

You conceded months ago. Let it go

Originally posted by juggerman
You conceded months ago. Let it go
I never conceded to you. Ever. Voldemort wins.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
We see it break after Dumbleodre TK's Harry back. He wants Harry back at distance, he needs Harry out of the way.

2. Prove me otherwise.

3. You trailed off from the original topic.

No it's not. You just can beat me. Never have and never will.

Commentary from the films should also count but guess what mod said they don't. It's just the films themselves, no commentary, most likely no deleted scenes, no nothing, just the films and in the films we see Dumbleodre is the better of the two.

Except Dumbeldore being more powerful than Voldmeort, Sidious beating Khan, Anakin beating Maul, Dooku beating Maul, and that your a troll, and Snape beats Khan.

I bet you don't even know how to hold a fork, that's how stupid you are. Your insults are just like arguments. A joke

False.

2. Onus is on you.

3. Irony.

Commentary counts.

You are emotionally compromised. Voldemort wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never conceded to you. Ever. Voldemort wins.

YouTube video

Originally posted by juggerman
YouTube video
You have lost as has Albus.

Originally posted by juggerman
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😂 😂 😂 Good one bro

Originally posted by quanchi112
False.

2. Onus is on you.

3. Irony.

Commentary counts.

You are emotionally compromised. Voldemort wins.

Prove me wrong.

It's actually on you,to prove what I was saying was nonsense or irrelevant or,however you described it.

Proved my point again

Mod says it doesn't. Even if it did, that commentary got its reasoning from the books which here is illegal. So basically you have someone who had no bearing on the production of the films or books who says Voldemort is the most powerful and then quotes books as evidence. So that is put down. We go based of of feats and accolades. Going by that they are close with a slight edge to Dumbledore. He has more experience, and already showed he was cable of,stalemtaing Voldemort while not going on all out on Voldmeort. He was fighting him and trying to protect Harry.

How am I emotionally compromised? Based on what? You've never proved it. If we compare feats Dumbleodre edges out here.

First off Voldemort canocially feared Dumbledore.

Now on to feats.

Dumbledore,defintlly has more,experience and magical,knowledge than Voldemort.

Fire Snake vs Firestorm Firestorm wins IMO. Now this was a weakend Dumbleodre.

Water bubble vs dark blast. Dumbleodre penetrated Voldemorts defense and almost drowned him if Harry didn't get to close, but Dumbledore blocked it and turned all the dust into sand.

Apparition equal

Transfiguration- Dumbleodre I would say due to,him not only being a transfiguration teacher for many years, but neither have just many transfiguration feats and Dumbledore has more, by I think one to zero.

Dark Magic- Voldemort. I don't think this,needs much explaining.

Overall Dumbleodre and Voldmeort have definitive counters and defenses to each other's magics but we have seen Voldmeort exhaust his bag of tricks on Dumbledore and we see he was really afraid once Dumbleodre got back up. This is all while we haven't seen Dumbleodre on real offense, and feat by feat Dumbleodre is slightly more impressive. This along with Dumbledores greater wealth of knowledge and experience.

One feat I haven't mentioned here is Voldemort's shattering of the hogwarts sheild. While impressive since it was made by the charms professor, Molly Weasley, Mcgonagall(supposedly) and Horace, which we see hold up agaisnt a very powerful assault it did just come from defending against several death eater spells and three of them walking through it and vaporizing them, so it's not like he did it on his own.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Prove me wrong.

It's actually on you,to prove what I was saying was nonsense or irrelevant or,however you described it.

Proved my point again

Mod says it doesn't. Even if it did, that commentary got its reasoning from the books which here is illegal. So basically you have someone who had no bearing on the production of the films or books who says Voldemort is the most powerful and then quotes books as evidence. So that is put down. We go based of of feats and accolades. Going by that they are close with a slight edge to Dumbledore. He has more experience, and already showed he was cable of,stalemtaing Voldemort while not going on all out on Voldmeort. He was fighting him and trying to protect Harry.

How am I emotionally compromised? Based on what? You've never proved it. If we compare feats Dumbleodre edges out here.

First off Voldemort canocially feared Dumbledore.

Now on to feats.

Dumbledore,defintlly has more,experience and magical,knowledge than Voldemort.

Fire Snake vs Firestorm Firestorm wins IMO. Now this was a weakend Dumbleodre.

Water bubble vs dark blast. Dumbleodre penetrated Voldemorts defense and almost drowned him if Harry didn't get to close, but Dumbledore blocked it and turned all the dust into sand.

Apparition equal

Transfiguration- Dumbleodre I would say due to,him not only being a transfiguration teacher for many years, but neither have just many transfiguration feats and Dumbledore has more, by I think one to zero.

Dark Magic- Voldemort. I don't think this,needs much explaining.

Overall Dumbleodre and Voldmeort have definitive counters and defenses to each other's magics but we have seen Voldmeort exhaust his bag of tricks on Dumbledore and we see he was really afraid once Dumbleodre got back up. This is all while we haven't seen Dumbleodre on real offense, and feat by feat Dumbleodre is slightly more impressive. This along with Dumbledores greater wealth of knowledge and experience.

One feat I haven't mentioned here is Voldemort's shattering of the hogwarts sheild. While impressive since it was made by the charms professor, Molly Weasley, Mcgonagall(supposedly) and Horace, which we see hold up agaisnt a very powerful assault it did just come from defending against several death eater spells and three of them walking through it and vaporizing them, so it's not like he did it on his own.

Onus is on you.

So the people telling the story itself from the films perspective don't matter ? You're that dunce who would say so because you're a delusional fool.

Fear is one thing but he stood against him so that means he's courageous. Dumbledore feared Voldemort as well as the entire wizardry world.

Dumbledore had the elder want and he looked weaker aka Voldemort wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Onus is on you.

So the people telling the story itself from the films perspective don't matter ? You're that dunce who would say so because you're a delusional fool.

Fear is one thing but he stood against him so that means he's courageous. Dumbledore feared Voldemort as well as the entire wizardry world.

Dumbledore had the elder want and he looked weaker aka Voldemort wins.

It's now on you actually.

She didn't make the film so her opinion doesn't matter. If it were the producer, director, stunt cordinator, Rowling, or even the actors I could understand that, but this random lady? Nope.

Courageous? 😂 Couragoeus or overconfident. It's like the Yoda vs Dooku fight. He knew Yoda was above him, but he fought him anyway. That's called overconfidence. Voldmeort isn't courageous. Prove Dumbleodre feared him. Please, I'm waiting.

Ha. You proved my point. You said looked. That means to you he was better. Also when has the elder wand ever given anyone any advantage over there opponent that couldn't be overcome? How do you think Dumbledore got the elder wand? I'm going to tell you something, the elder wand doesn't make one more powerful, if it did it wouldn't have such a long line of owners who were defeated. The elder wand allows one to do the impossible, and using the elder wand when it works against you, isn't that big of a feat. Any wand can be used, just not to its full potential. That's how they have used wands that didn't belong to them throughout the franchise.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's now on you actually.

She didn't make the film so her opinion doesn't matter. If it were the producer, director, stunt cordinator, Rowling, or even the actors I could understand that, but this random lady? Nope.

Courageous? 😂 Couragoeus or overconfident. It's like the Yoda vs Dooku fight. He knew Yoda was above him, but he fought him anyway. That's called overconfidence. Voldmeort isn't courageous. Prove Dumbleodre feared him. Please, I'm waiting.

Ha. You proved my point. You said looked. That means to you he was better. Also when has the elder wand ever given anyone any advantage over there opponent that couldn't be overcome? How do you think Dumbledore got the elder wand? I'm going to tell you something, the elder wand doesn't make one more powerful, if it did it wouldn't have such a long line of owners who were defeated. The elder wand allows one to do the impossible, and using the elder wand when it works against you, isn't that big of a feat. Any wand can be used, just not to its full potential. That's how they have used wands that didn't belong to them throughout the franchise.

No, the onus is on you.

She aided and you just agreed that it matters.

You said he fears him and facing something you fear is the definition of courage you moron. You're this stupid. Look at Dumbledore's face when dealing with Voldemort. Scared shitless.

Elder wand is the most powerful wand but Voldemort is simply better. Case and point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the onus is on you.

She aided and you just agreed that it matters.

You said he fears him and facing something you fear is the definition of courage you moron. You're this stupid. Look at Dumbledore's face when dealing with Voldemort. Scared shitless.

Elder wand is the most powerful wand but Voldemort is simply better. Case and point.

I'm not going to debate with you on who needs to prove what here. It's your turn so prove it or move on.

Explain? I said prouder, director, Rowling, or actor, or stunt coordinator then maybe, but she is a random lady so not seeing how I agree.

O it's not, it can be overconfidence/false courage. Where?!?!? You ****ing idiot Dumbleodre wasn't scarred of shit for himself. He came and faced Dumbeldore with a straight serious face. They fight he stays serious. Only time Dumbleodres face changes is when he makes the firessnake. Only time and that wasn't fear for himself. You wanna see fear, se Voldmeorts face at the start of the fight and at the end, that's fear.

If Voldmeort were better than he would have beaten Dumbleodre, cause Dumbleodremdidnt attempt to flee, Voldmeort did. You really are an idiot, and know very little about Harry Potter. The Elder wand doesn't make up for any gap in power. If it did Dumbleodre wouldn't have it. Then we take into consideration Dumbleodre wasn't going all out, it's defintly clear Dumbleodre takes a 8-9/10 win agaisnt Voldmeort. By the way how is your reading of the seven Harry Potter books going? 😂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I'm not going to debate with you on who needs to prove what here. It's your turn so prove it or move on.

Explain? I said prouder, director, Rowling, or actor, or stunt coordinator then maybe, but she is a random lady so not seeing how I agree.

O it's not, it can be overconfidence/false courage. Where?!?!? You ****ing idiot Dumbleodre wasn't scarred of shit for himself. He came and faced Dumbeldore with a straight serious face. They fight he stays serious. Only time Dumbleodres face changes is when he makes the firessnake. Only time and that wasn't fear for himself. You wanna see fear, se Voldmeorts face at the start of the fight and at the end, that's fear.

If Voldmeort were better than he would have beaten Dumbleodre, cause Dumbleodremdidnt attempt to flee, Voldmeort did. You really are an idiot, and know very little about Harry Potter. The Elder wand doesn't make up for any gap in power. If it did Dumbleodre wouldn't have it. Then we take into consideration Dumbleodre wasn't going all out, it's defintly clear Dumbleodre takes a 8-9/10 win agaisnt Voldmeort. By the way how is your reading of the seven Harry Potter books going? 😂

It is included onnthenfioms features so it obviously carries weight.

Voldemort is annoyed and changes the tactics due to the time constraints. Voldemort never looked scared whatsoever. You said he's fearful but facing someone you fear makes you courageous and you agree. Albus became afraid during this duel with Tom.

The backup arrived and that is why Voldemort left. One on one Voldemort looked vastly superior.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is included onnthenfioms features so it obviously carries weight.

Voldemort is annoyed and changes the tactics due to the time constraints. Voldemort never looked scared whatsoever. You said he's fearful but facing someone you fear makes you courageous and you agree. Albus became afraid during this duel with Tom.

The backup arrived and that is why Voldemort left. One on one Voldemort looked vastly superior.

😂

Yet commentary for Star Wars doesn't. Lol so special features doesn't count in this forum. Even if it did, it's not from someone who has the right to decide who is better.

But what was all that talk about how he would be gone and Dumbeldore would be dead before they arrived? 😂 Annoyed?!?!? Excuses. He wasn't annoyed he was scared. I know what an annoyed face is. That was a scarred shitless face. Everyone but you seems to understand that. Actually I don't agree. I say it could be Overconfident. Could be one or the other, or could be a mixture of both. I persoanlly believe it was overconfidence because every time we see him he is either playing when all the cards are on his side or has the backing of his entire army or part of it. See his face when Dumbledore shows up, he clearly didn't expect to see him and was very distraught.

https://youtu.be/6Tbffj_04cl 0:28-0:31 Voldmeorts facial expression changes once Dumbleodre arrives. 2:20-2:33 scarred shitless face. Then guess what, he disapparates, thus fleeing the duel and then preceding to attack Harry instead of continuing the duel. So if Voldemort were more powerful why did he not beat Dumbleodre who by the way wasn't even going all out. 2:46- to end he is attacking Harry. So guess what he fled his fight with Dumbleodre. If you attempt to lie it's an automatic concession.

Quan, why do you keep saying Voldemort is the most powerful wizard, when the creator of the universe and the books the movies are based on.... says Dumbledore the Great is the most powerful?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Quan, why do you keep saying Voldemort is the most powerful wizard, when the creator of the universe and the books the movies are based on.... says Dumbledore the Great is the most powerful?
That is only regarding the books when the films special features and the films say otherwise.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yet commentary for Star Wars doesn't. Lol so special features doesn't count in this forum. Even if it did, it's not from someone who has the right to decide who is better.

But what was all that talk about how he would be gone and Dumbeldore would be dead before they arrived? 😂 Annoyed?!?!? Excuses. He wasn't annoyed he was scared. I know what an annoyed face is. That was a scarred shitless face. Everyone but you seems to understand that. Actually I don't agree. I say it could be Overconfident. Could be one or the other, or could be a mixture of both. I persoanlly believe it was overconfidence because every time we see him he is either playing when all the cards are on his side or has the backing of his entire army or part of it. See his face when Dumbledore shows up, he clearly didn't expect to see him and was very distraught.

https://youtu.be/6Tbffj_04cl 0:28-0:31 Voldmeorts facial expression changes once Dumbleodre arrives. 2:20-2:33 scarred shitless face. Then guess what, he disapparates, thus fleeing the duel and then preceding to attack Harry instead of continuing the duel. So if Voldemort were more powerful why did he not beat Dumbleodre who by the way wasn't even going all out. 2:46- to end he is attacking Harry. So guess what he fled his fight with Dumbleodre. If you attempt to lie it's an automatic concession.

Warner decided to fit it in there. That matters more than some idiots opinion such as yours. 😂

Your perception isn't reality and he did indeed face him. Courage personified.

He looks annoyed. Nothing more.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Warner decided to fit it in there. That matters more than some idiots opinion such as yours. 😂

Your perception isn't reality and he did indeed face him. Courage personified.

He looks annoyed. Nothing more.

Lucas decided to put commentary in there to, guess what dose count. My opinion realisticly on this board is worth more than hers since she pulled her facts from the books whi h here don't count.

He faced him, not necessarily courage. So based on other instances and his personality, it wasn't courage, overconfidence.

Scarred. Learn the difference.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Lucas decided to put commentary in there to, guess what dose count. My opinion realisticly on this board is worth more than hers since she pulled her facts from the books whi h here don't count.

He faced him, not necessarily courage. So based on other instances and his personality, it wasn't courage, overconfidence.

Scarred. Learn the difference.

Lucas' thoughts on his own material counts as well.

If you face what you spread that's courage. That's the definition. You don't even know what the word means.

Scarred ? Scarred doesn't means scared, idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lucas' thoughts on his own material counts as well.

If you face what you spread that's courage. That's the definition. You don't even know what the word means.

Scarred ? Scarred doesn't means scared, idiot.

Not here it doesn't. Remember Mod said it didn't.

That's one of two possible feelings. The other is overconfidence. Stop being a fanboy and think for just once in your life.

So you get the point. My spelling is irrelevant as long as you get the point that's all that matters here. The fact you waste time to correct shows me that you know I'm right thus you concede.