Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet vs Dawn of Time Anti-Monitor...

^^ Hey there friend. I used to think that too,
but after looking at the story closely I realized it wasn't 4 or 6
Gems, but literally the "remaining energies" withIN Nemesis
after the Gems split off.

Which makes the feat far more spectacular.

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15901125_Gems3.jpg]

More Proof on the Gems splitting up before the First Wave:

[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13994545_Gems5.jpg]

In other words, it wasn't their full power, (of the 6 or the 4)
but just whatever was left-over in Nemesis after the Gems were gone.

... wow!

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Yeah you said that earlier and I overlooked the comic myself, I can't believe I missed that important info. I was in such a hurry to show that it was only a 4 gem feat, I kinda skipped the most meaningful part.

Yeah it was some of the remnant energy of only 4 gems that was wrecking havoc. That takes the feat from being very good to magnificent in that regard.

I have always felt that the Reality Gem was the most powerful in terms of sheer versatility of the IG lot. Notwithstanding the comments that have been made about the Power Gem in the past.

What do you guys think? I am referring to you: MrM and Sundipped.

^^ Logically, it would seem the RG is the gold of the Gems,
but the difficulty of harnessing it without consequences is basically impossible.
(that's the plot behind it, and justly so, cause it alone should = the rest)

Imo, the "Reality" Gem only serves to make possible the illogical.
(eg. like making walls talk, men have babies, or 2+2=7)
WithIN a properly working universe, the Other 5 Gems cover all that's needed.
Time-Space being the true primary Gems.

Anyway, the Time Gem has proven to be the beast of the lot.

@ GK
I agree. I remember Eternity stating that Thanos with only the reality gem would be outside of his influence. The reality gem can also do things like resurrect Captain Marvel.

Thanos explained the function best:

"How can one explain the inconceivable? Few rational minds can grasp the myriad actualities possible. I dream and it will be".

You could do just about anything you wish with it.
If I had it, I could warp you and your debating skills down below the level of some of the outcasts here at KMC. If I willed it, you would never make a reasonable argument again. 😂

@MrM and SunD: So, as the various wikipedia entries on the different infinity gems state, it's little different from a cosmic cube?

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Mr.M may be able to make some specific comparisons but one thing I do know is that in Infinity Crusade, the cosmic egg which contained 30 CCU's was stated to be below the gauntlet in power.

As far as individually, I'm sure the time gem can rival some individual CC feats. A incomplete IG was more powerful than 5 CC's, that's why Magus didn't even care about the CC's anymore after the realization they were stolen.

^^ I believe GK is referring to the "Reality" Gem alone.

In which case one could say yes, it is exactly like a CCU.

Only just about anyone can harness a CCU, grant it Not fully but still, with zero side effects.

When the Goddess stole the RG,
she erroneously/inadvertently nearly collapsed All Reality. (as in all realities)

Thanos also quickly dispatched Marvel back to the darkside before repercussion emerged.

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ I believe GK is referring to the "Reality" Gem alone.

In which case one could say yes, it is exactly like a CCU.

Only just about anyone can harness a CCU, grant it Not fully but still, with zero side effects.

When the Goddess stole the RG,
she erroneously/inadvertently nearly collapsed All Reality. (as in all realities)

Thanos also quickly dispatched Marvel back to the darkside before repercussion emerged.

Basically speaking, the Cosmic Egg was the Reality Gem on steroids, amirite?

Also, if the reality gem is essentially identical to the cosmic cube in function, why doesn't it grant control over soul, mind, time etc?

Why are other gems even needed? The Reality Gem(being boosted by the Power Gem) alone could be sufficient for acquiring total dominion over the universe, theoretically speaking.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

Yep, that was what I referred to.

Basically speaking,
the Cosmic Egg was the Reality Gem on steroids, amirite?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

Also, if the reality gem is essentially identical to the cosmic cube in
function, why doesn't it grant control over soul, mind, time etc?

Why are other gems even needed? The Reality Gem(being boosted by
the Power Gem) alone could be sufficient for acquiring total dominion
over the universe, theoretically speaking.

Although,
any single Gem, in one form or another,
can take over the universe,
if harnessed on a cosmic scale. (which is possible)

On the other hand, Starlin's cop-out was damping the usage of the RG
with that perfect restrictive 'plot' added to it.
No one's ever done something special (like cosmic) with the RG alone.
And like I said, the Goddess tried tampering with it and the fabric of
reality was tearing apart. Warlock stated that left unchecked, "All
Actuality" would break down. (and Warlock was in Another Dimension Outside 616)

Reality Gem, contributes illogical possibilities to the IG.
(eg. making a retarded universe that works)

Make no mistake though, All 6 Gems need to be present to achieve "Godhood"

Thanos 10/10.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Thanos 10/10.

Poor big teeth

Sup folks, Thanos w/ the IG is probably THE most competent user, Prior i would of agreed that Thanos would win because i assumed the 616 gems were multiversal, however I thought it was specifically stated that the gems only affect their respective Universe ( being displayed in the recent issue of the avengers with Cap failing to push back the colliding universe and the gems breaking apart) unless it's something I'm missing. Also isn't the Anti-Monitor composed billions of universes, thus making him multiversal?

COIE Anti Monitor did defeat Spectre who was backed, I gotta go with AM who I believe was Multi-universal himself.

Originally posted by Mr.SunKing

Sup folks, Thanos w/ the IG is probably THE most competent
user, Prior i would of agreed that Thanos would win because i
assumed the 616 gems were multiversal, however I thought it was
specifically stated that the gems only affect their respective Universe
( being displayed in the recent issue of the avengers with Cap failing
to push back the colliding universe and the gems breaking apart)
unless it's something I'm missing.

That said, Cap didn't fail, the other universe was pushed back but the Gems popped.
Mind you though, Cap had Never touched the IG before, let alone wield it,
so imo, the feat was uber for such an inexperienced person to accomplish that.
The Gems breaking was Cap's inexperience according to Hickman.
The Gems aren't gone btw. That was plot and they'll be back.

Also, even though the IG may be constricted to one reality now,
withIN that one reality, the IG makes you "All Powerful."

So, you can wreck all kinds of shit outside of that one reality,
but step in it, and "God" (IG) takes you out.

So far, until further notice, at-least. 😛

^The original Nazi-Reed was unable to defeat the heroes of his native universe without going batshit insane and blowing up his whole universe.

And when Doom reclaimed this Reed's IG and went back to his universe to reignite it, he created a large collection of science/magic hybrid monsters who eventually managed to overwhelm him in a straight-up fight, even while he wielded the IG.

So no, the IG, for all the power it grants in its native universe, is still with limits and operates within universal constraints.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

And when Doom reclaimed this Reed's IG and went back to his universe to reignite it, he created a large collection of science/magic hybrid monsters who eventually managed to overwhelm him in a straight-up fight, even while he wielded the IG.

Hickman.......... 😘

Silly Hickman