Superman Better than Goku?

Started by cdtm12 pages
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Haven't seen this before.

From the ongoing event?

Never would have happened under Giffen.. (To hell with Starlin, Keith Giffen's Thanos was tough, and had a sense of humor. 😄 )

Originally posted by cdtm
Haven't seen this before.

From the ongoing event?


Bendis. Avengers Assemble. Was published quite a while ago.

In the ongoing event(Infinity), this is the level he's been portrayed at so far:

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Well, not sure what this means for Thanos vs the heroes, but this is a tremendous feat. lol at him trying to have a conversation
"Tell me where he is"
*Scream*
"I-Is that a no?"
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Originally posted by NemeBro
Provided a scan of Goku tanking a moon busting punch to the face.

Since early before part 2, he has been clearly tanking moon busters to the face. Since Piccolo destroyed the moon with a blast, and that same Piccolo was blasting Goku in that same fight. What's the difference between a moon busting punch and a moon busting energy blast? And why does Goku need to be able to tank anything, since Superman wouldn't be able to tank a Kamehameha either?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Since early before part 2, he has been clearly tanking moon busters to the face. Since Piccolo destroyed the moon with a blast, and that same Piccolo was blasting Goku in that same fight. What's the difference between a moon busting punch and a moon busting energy blast? And why does Goku need to be able to tank anything, since Superman wouldn't be able to tank a Kamehameha either?

Supermans faster.

Originally posted by cdtm
Supermans faster.
Goku has better hair.

Originally posted by I am Vegeta
Goku has better hair.
Touche.

I dunno; i'd take an s curl over... well, whatever you call that thing on goku's head.

I believe that is Sonic the Hedgehog on Goku's head.

Originally posted by cdtm
Haven't seen this before.

From the ongoing event?

Never would have happened under Giffen.. (To hell with Starlin, Keith Giffen's Thanos was tough, and had a sense of humor. 😄 )

Thanos was weakened. In flight speed Superman is faster in combat speed teen Goku is faster.

Adding on to what I said above.

Goku is more durable...he can walk through planet busting power (Frieza tanked it a d he was near death)

Goku is a better fighter

Goku is stronger...the shockwaves from his fights at his weakest destroys nearby mountains.

Goku power output as a kid is Herald +. As an adult, it was stated Rhys he can destroy multiple of planets with a casual blast.

This is black hair Goku I'm talking about, not even approaching Super Saiyan yet.

Carver how many times do I have to tell you not to forget taking your pills?

Originally posted by cdtm
Supermans faster.

He can fly faster than Goku if that's what you mean. In combat? What legit speedster who was utilizing his or her super speed has Superman outright blitzed?

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Saiyan Saga characters were already herald level.

What is that, if it's not herald level? Meta? Street?

Now how easily would base Frieza crush that Vegeta a thousand times over? How easily would SSJ3 Goku destroy full power Frieza? It's basic powerscaling.

If that Kamehameha or Galic Gun hit Superman, would he be able to just brush it off? Hell no, he would at least be hurt. But Namek Goku would be able to easily tank it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJ-Qg3nFoc

Vegeta is a liar.

Goku cannot see the whole planet, and this would not be the only time a villain lied in DBZ, lol.

Also, ki blasts =/= physicality.

DBZ characters ability to work with ki makes them much more able to handle it than they can physical attacks. Their ki attacks are much, much more powerful than their physical attacks and yet their physical attacks are still plenty capable of hurting one another. So their durability is highly inconsistent or they can resist and combat ki.

No one in DBZ has ever demonstrated the physical might to destroy a moon, for example, quite the opposite, in fact. Heavy gravity and training weights are still a strain on their muscles, even when said weights would sit under a hundred tons, I'd expect characters like Goku to be able to bench press mountains, but DBZ stops several times to tell me 'no, no he cannot'. His ki attacks are absolutely herald level, but the rest of him is less impressive.

Goku kills superman with his hair

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJ-Qg3nFoc

Vegeta is a liar.

Goku can sense ki. He knew that he had to counter Vegeta's blast or his planet would blow up.

Also, ki blasts =/= physicality. DBZ characters ability to work with ki makes them much more able to handle it than they can physical attacks. Their ki attacks are much, much more powerful than their physical attacks and yet their physical attacks are still plenty capable of hurting one another. So their durability is highly inconsistent or they can resist and combat ki.

See beaten down Frieza surviving explosion of Namek and then being cut to pieces by a regular sword that couldn't even scratch experienced SSJ Goku's finger. So clearly, they can use their ki to amp their physical stats.

No one in DBZ has ever demonstrated the physical might to destroy a moon, for example, quite the opposite, in fact.

There's no need to, because ranged blasts > punches.

Goku bench press mountains

Lifting strength doesn't help anyone in a fight and isn't the same as punching strength, so why even bring it up? Goku can hit at least as hard as Superman, but Superman can lift way more.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJ-Qg3nFoc

Vegeta is a liar.

You think so? Goku seemed pretty sure he was right.

And Goku called Freeza and Buu being able to destroy a planet, so his records pretty good.

And Roshi casually busted a moon at a time when he needed all his energy to fight Goku (Whom he still defeated), and his pl was only something like 200. Nowhere near that era's strongest character (Ten was stronger when he was introduced, and even Krillin probably became stronger). pl 200 = (casual) moon buster, and Geta was pl 18,000 or so.

Imagine if the lizard was Goku.

Originally posted by carver9
Imagine if the lizard was Goku.

That's sad, lol. But they still want to bring up the 40 ton thing

Goku can hit at least as hard as Superman
haermm No. 😐
Originally posted by cdtm
You think so? Goku seemed pretty sure he was right.

And Goku called Freeza and Buu being able to destroy a planet, so his records pretty good.

And Roshi casually busted a moon at a time when he needed all his energy to fight Goku (Whom he still defeated), and his pl was only something like 200. Nowhere near that era's strongest character (Ten was stronger when he was introduced, and even Krillin probably became stronger). pl 200 = (casual) moon buster, and Geta was pl 18,000 or so.

Goku is so gullible it's physically painful to watch. Remember Raditz' tail?

Stop trying to scale by power level, it doesn't work. 😬

I stopped caring about this thread.

LoL.