John McClane vs Eli (Book of Eli)

Started by Sadako of Girth16 pages

Im not saying their allowed exactly, but its typical that McClane would uniquely do.. disregarding such a rule in an instance like this...but if however this isn't how it would have gone down, then its likely that McClane would find in the area a flagpole or something like a bit of scaffholding that would be used to defend/keep range at bay then to impale through Eli's eye at a dramatically pleasing moment..

Also if he is in Times Square he could just put a Crown Victoria up Eli's arse.

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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Im not saying their allowed exactly, but its typical that McClane would uniquely do.. disregarding such a rule in an instance like this...but if however this isn't how it would have gone down, then its likely that McClane would find in the area a flagpole or something like a bit of scaffholding that would be used to defend/keep range at bay then to impale through Eli's eye at a dramatically pleasing moment..

Also if he is in Times Square he could just put a Crown Victoria up Eli's arse.

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So basically because he is McClane he gets to break any rules you decide that the OP puts into play?

He's still a fictional character if the OP says he only has a Machete then he only gets a machete. If they can use objects around the area Eli simply uses his superior accuracy to throw something and kill McClane.

Aside from typical Action Hero Tropes that the Forum is giving McClane Eli kicks his butt.

I wouldn't go that far...

Okay McClane kills Eli with a Machete.

Nope Eli chops him up.

Doubt it. Tonnes have tried to kill him before and he is still kicking ass whilst they all fell, some in 100-1 circumstances. The odds look good for McClane.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Doubt it. Tonnes have tried to kill him before and he is still kicking ass whilst they all fell, some in 100-1 circumstances. The odds look good for McClane.
So I don't care about McClane's luck factor(Action Hero Tropes). Eli is better Eli wins.

I'd doubt it. Whatever tries to take McClane out loses/dies.
Its a fundimental law of the universe.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Yeah she did. His ass got knocked to the ground and she had a perfect opportunity to kill him right there, but didn't. [b]RETARD. You trying to over hype the scene doesn't do shit. Sorry, child.

sorry, everything I said was true. I don't need either your or Saddie's bullshit opinions to confirm it. Your thoughts on the matter are worthless, as any troll's are 🙂 Go crawl back under your bridge, have your threeway circlejerk with McClane, and leave us logical people alone. [/B]

LoL, so instead of admitting you were wrong, you change what you said and continue with the nonsense.

1) You initially said McClane was "knocked out", that's far different than being "knocked down." One is not like the other.

2) Being knocked down in a fight isn't losing the fight and being knocked down doesn't automatically equate that you can be insta-killed, as you seem to think.

Clearly what you said wasn't true and you need to calm down.

😆 You are so pathetic Rob, you think playing with semantics is going to excuse the fact that McClane was easily overcome in H2H combat. He was on the ground, and Mai Lihn could have killed him, but didn't., He could have been knocked down, out, up, across, whatever. Main point was that he was overcome in H2H. Stop trying to divert the point into some meaningless nonsense, like moronic trolls like you often try to do.

Also, you act as if that ONE EXAMPLE is going to somehow invalidate all the other blatant evidence that McClane is an utter chump, as clearly proven here:

Originally posted by Lestov16
Quan, Robbi and Saddie are obviously retarded dumbasses . You don't need their worthless opinions to show that McClane clearly isn't protected by some divine being. I can prove it to you right now.

[b]McClane only survives because his villains are incompetent

- In DH1, we clearly see the amateur villainy when one merc drops his guard to steal a candy bar. Karl has a clear chance to shoot McClane in the back of the head while McClane is on the phone with Al, but doesn't. When Hans has Holly at the end, and McClane surrenders, if Hans had either shot McClane as soon as he saw him, or if he had any of his goons do a simple patdown, McClane and his wife would has been screwed

-In DH3, Simon lets McClane and Zeus live without shooting them, which would have solved everything for him, and not only that, but gives him evidence as to his next location. If Simon had not done that, he would have gotten away clean and Mcclane would have lost. Again, Simon lost here not because McClane bested him, not because McClane has some divine spirit watching him, but due to his own stupidity

-In DH4, Maggie Q has a clear chance to kill McClane after she knocks him out, but doesn't for no reason (and to show exactly how much of an amateur McClane is, he does the exact same thing, leading to him getting his ass kicked twice). The F35 pilot flies under a collapsing overpass for no logical reason whatsoever. And Gabriel, the genius of the film, has McClane cornered and rather than kill McClane immediately, lifts him up for no logical reason. Again, Gabriel lost not due to McClane besting him, but his own stupidity. and note that it wasn't God who saved McClane, but punk bytch Justin Long 😆

So see, Quan, you don't need validation from trolling morons like Robbi and Saddie. The objective indisputable truth is right there for you, and any person with a working brain stem, to clearly see. McClane is an amateur, only takes on amateur foes, and can't even beat them, needing to rely on the already amateur villains being complete retards to win against them. [/B]

😆 Whatchu gonna do, Trollboy? Are you going to say Simon didn't screw himself by giving McClane that bottle? Gabriel didn't screw himself by picking up McClane? Are you going to try to fabricate some other obviously bullshit lie that makes no sense when screenfeats clearly disprove them? Or are you going to do some other troll tactics? Copy and repost your post a few times, or maybe you will be like your butt bud, Saddie, and spam the threads with 10 auto-playing videos in a single post.

Then again, you and Saddie are such blatantly retarded trolls that there's no telling what troll tactics who have devised under your bridge.

Pointing out an outright falsehood (you lied) is not playing semantics. You clearly tried to pass it off that McClane was beaten (knocked out) and could have easily been killed, when neither is true. If anyone is trying to hide their lie under semantics it's you. "I meant knocked down when I said knocked out, because they're really the same thing."

Being knocked on the ground in a H2H doesn't mean you can easily be defeated by some default certainty. Watch any MMA fight, fighters get knocked to the ground and they're still able to defend and/or attack.

That one example is clearly wrong, as are others. What's the point of me getting into each one and breaking them down when you can't even admit you were outright lying with the one above. It'd be a lesson in futilely and we've gone through it before in one form or another. eg this isn't the first time you've tried the "knocked out" lie.

Can't think of any action movie (DH, LW) or series (24) without some PIS/CIS, if it didn't happen and the villains didn't make any illogical moves whatsoever, there wouldn't be much of a show.

Yup, you're still upset. You need to calm down.

What are you trying to prove trollboy? Even if Mcclane wasn't unconscious, he was on the ground for more than few seconds and Lihn had perfect opportunity to waste him (with the same gun she used to threaten Long) but doesn't out of sheer stupidity.

You are trying to overhype McClane to make his fighting prowess seem far better than it truly is, especially when the DH Films almost go out of their way to show that McClane is an inexperienced fighter (thus why he uses so much melee weapons). You just come off as a trolling fanboy and before it was hilarious, but it's starting to just annoy me.

And again, trying to divert attention from the fact that McClane gets his ass kicked on a regular basis just makes you look like the retard, more so than you already do.

Originally posted by Lestov16
What are you trying to prove trollboy? Even if Mcclane wasn't unconscious, he was on the ground for more than few seconds and Lihn had perfect opportunity to waste him (with the same gun she used to threaten Long) but doesn't out of sheer stupidity.

You are trying to overhype McClane to make his fighting prowess seem [b]far better than it truly is, especially when the DH Films almost go out of their way to show that McClane is an inexperienced fighter (thus why he uses so much melee weapons). You just come off as a trolling fanboy and before it was hilarious, but it's starting to just annoy me.

And again, trying to divert attention form the fact that McClane gets his ass kicked on a regular basis just makes you look like the retard, more so than you already do. [/B]

Even? No. McClane was not knocked out in his fight with Lihn. This is a fact. Go find the scene, as I've linked it to you a few times now and pause it where you think McClane is knocked out, do a screen capture and post the pic. Do that or STFU with your lies.

When could Lihn have "wasted him" with a gun? McClane took her gun and put it in his back part of his pants when he snuck up behind and surprised her. Her gun was then kicked behind McClane under a barrier and what looked like some desks. McClane could have certainly wasted her with a gun, but he didn't, cos he's the hero with morals. So that's yet another lie you're trying to push.

McClane got the shit beat out of him. He always gets the shit beat out of him. Again, the DH films purposely establish Mcclane as an inexperienced fighter so he can employ more melee weapons. You're such a troll that you are arguing against the tropes of your own film 😆

Originally posted by Lestov16
McClane got the shit beat out of him. He [b]always gets the shit beat out of him. Again, the DH films purposely establish Mcclane as an inexperienced fighter so he can employ more melee weapons. You're such a troll that you are arguing against the tropes of your own film 😆 [/B]

So when your lies have been clearly exposed, ignore the challenge like a coward and rant in another direction. Classic trolll, that.

😆 Watch the scene, you retarded little child.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7mo2k_live-free-or-die-hard-kung-fu_shortfilms

Guess what, trollboy. For all your fanboy bullshit, you forget that McClane only got the drop on her because she turned around. She thought he was unconscious. Again, the caliber of dumbass villains McAmatuer takes on is proven and you are shown to be a pathetic liar. She could have easily wailed on him and killed his candy ass, but she set up her own weakness by walking away like a dumbass, again because she was under the impression that Mcclane was unconscious.

Any advantage Mcclane had in that fight (and he didn't have much, despite that he started the fight having a gun pointed directly at her head. Was McClane summoning the power of the Lord when he yelled "Jesus Christ!" as he got disarmed and owned like a punk bytch? 😆 ) was due to her stupidity rather than his combat prowess.

Again, your attempt at overhyping McClane has FAILED and you have been proven to be a retarded fanboy whose opinion bears no relevance.

So once again you try to divert from your two previous lies by focusing on something else. Now you meant to say "she thought he was unconscious". LoL

We've covered that McClane was knocked down (since I corrected you and told you this) and we covered that being knocked down doesn't mean you're a helpless target.

LoL, are you actually trying to imply that McClane couldn't have easily shot her in the head right before or right after he snuck up behind her? Troll.

STFU with your trolling. McClane won (momentarily) not due to his combat prowess, but because Lihn turned around because she thought he was unconscious. Are you seriously disputing this? 😂 Then again, why am I surprised such a idiotc troll would be so retarded?

And yet another diversion. Now McClane "momentarily won". LoL. So sad.

Any time you want to take my challenge and prove those claims you made will be fine by me. LMK if you need help in screen capturing and posting the pics.

So McClane would have won that fight had Lihn not turned around? LOL you are so deluded

My computer does not have the software to screen capture. Just watch the vid. She knocks him out and turns around. It clearly happens in the film. This is not up for debate.

Originally posted by Lestov16
So McClane would have won that fight had Lihn not turned around? LOL you are so deluded

[b]My computer does not have the software to screen capture. Just watch the vid. She knocks him out and turns around. It clearly happens in the film. This is not up for debate. [/B]

And now you resort to a strawman. I didn't say that now did I.

You're telling me your keyboard doesn't have a "Pring Scrn" (print screen) button? Not that it matters, as we both know McClane was never knocked out and at no time could Lihn have shot McClane with a gun she no longer had, so there's nothing to capture. But stop lying.