Kit Fisto and Mace Windu vs. Savage Oppress and Maul

These two duos have both faced down Sidious with similarish results. Which duo comes out on top?

Well team 1 beat Sidious. Team 2 lost to Sidious. Not that Kit was any help to team 1.

However I believe the brothers probably can take Mace together. But not sure how much of a difference Fisto would make.

I'm going with team 2. I think Maul can hold his own against Mace long enough for Opress to destroy Fisto and help Maul.

I see it as the other way around- Fisto is no slouch, and Maul is definitely weaker than Mace. So Fisto can hold off Savage until Mace beats Maul down.

Also, once a foe gets used to Opress's power, he tends to get outdueled.

I don't see Fisto lasting long here at all... However, Mace could likely solo so team 1 for the win.

The only way I see Savage winning against Fisto is through superior strength or raw force power. Fisto has better skill and technique with a saber, so I think that if he can handle Savage's physical strength and close the distance, then he can take it.

Fisto could hold his own against Grievous. He's not to be unerestimated on this duel.

Mace, on the other hand, easily defeats both of them. He could probably solo this. Add Fisto to the picture, and this duel is won by team 1.

Mace is much more powerful than either and Kit should be able to hold his own against either for long enough.

Dave Filoni has confirmed that Opress performed better against Sidious than Tiin+Kolar+Fisto. So Fisto on his own isn't lasting long against him. One Force wave followed by pounding on him with his tremendous strength and Fisto is gone.

Could Mace defeat both brothers on his own? Dunno. Should be a good fight at least. But Maul alone should be able to hold his own in Sabers for a time. He did against Sidious so I don't see why he couldn't against Mace.

Fisto was able to go toe-to-toe with Grievous and he has the strength to punt people across the room and dent starship hulls.

Fisto was able to go toe-to-toe with Grievous and he has the strength to punt people across the room and dent starship hulls. Opress will need more than just strength here imo.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Dave Filoni has confirmed that Opress performed better against Sidious than Tiin+Kolar+Fisto. So Fisto on his own isn't lasting long against him. One Force wave followed by pounding on him with his tremendous strength and Fisto is gone.

Well, yea, but Kolar and Tiin were caught with their guards down. Only Fisto was able to raise his sword and block... and when it was Opress vs Sidious 1 on 1 Opress wasn't able to do the slightest thing, Sidious was able to pretty casually get around his defenses.

Originally posted by Q99
Well, yea, but Kolar and Tiin were caught with their guards down. Only Fisto was able to raise his sword and block... and when it was Opress vs Sidious 1 on 1 Opress wasn't able to do the slightest thing, Sidious was able to pretty casually get around his defenses.

True. Fisto with his greater skill might take some time for Opress to destroy.

Really depends how long Maul lasts against Mace. I feel Maul can hold his own in Sabers from his performance against Sidious.

Mace Windu.
Savage defeats Kit Fisto easily.
Mace vs Maul would be just like Sidious vs the Sith brothers,
except with no Force lightning.

Savage dies and Maul asking Mace what are you?

Also, let us not treat it as two separate 1v1s.

It'd be two pairs, meaning that if Fisto got in trouble, Windu would defend him, and thus keep him around as an aid and distraction.

Maul'd try to do the same if Opress got in trouble, but Windu could do it without leaving much of an opening, while I don't think Maul could say the same.

Originally posted by Q99
Well, yea, but Kolar and Tiin were caught with their guards down.

Never really understood why people say this. The two of them were confronting a Sith Lord with his saber already drawn... What did they expect to happen?

Kolar and Tiin wasn't the best choice in my opinion.
Whether they were on guard or not Sidious still would have killed them.
As for Kit either way if you switch Maul vs Kit and Mace vs Savage

Either way Kit dies and Mace is left alone to fight both brothers.
Just like in ROTS. So Kit really doesn't make a difference.

Kit lasts awhile, though (really long if Mace protects him). He's not going to go down quickly like he did against Sids.

Originally posted by ares834
Never really understood why people say this. The two of them were confronting a Sith Lord with his saber already drawn... What did they expect to happen?

They knew he was bad. They did *not* know he was that powerful, that fast, or that he'd attack in such an aggressive manner.

Heck, they likely expected he'd surrender or that Mace'd do all the work.

Also I will note the Novel version had Sidious attack when Tiin was trying to use telepathy, so more explicitly catching him off guard by using his own ability against him.

Originally posted by Q99
Only Fisto was able to raise his sword and block... and when it was Opress vs Sidious 1 on 1 Opress wasn't able to do the slightest thing, Sidious was able to pretty casually get around his defenses.

ok I'll buy that..lol
Kit is good but not against Sith Lords.
If he was as good as Lucien Draay with his Mastery of Shii Cho then I'll give him credit.
To me Kit just wasn't sure of himself.
I think Sidious sensed that doubt in Fisto.

Tiin had no idea,telepathy ?
Yoda couldn't read his mind or sense him.
And Koth,no comment.

Asajj Ventress also outgunned Kit Fisto in single combat.