X-Men: Days of Future Past

Started by KingD1964 pages

Originally posted by ares834
I was talking about SM's post. But even then, most of what you posted aren't plot-holes but merely the difference between the comics and the films.

1. Simple. He isn't Scott's younger brother in the films.

2. He is in the film franchise.

3. Yeah, this one is a plot hole. But I'd assume Magneto is to blame.

4. Who said he came from the future in the film franchise?

5. She simply has two different powers. Just as Jean Grey can use both TK and TP. I'll admit, I was a bit confused when they intially brought it up though.

6. The fact that every single side character's origin isn't revealed is not a plot hole...

1. His name is still Alex Summers, and nothing is ever mentioned about them even being related. Even with

Spoiler:
Quicksilver he himself mentioned his mom knew a guy who could control metal once.

4. Every character explanation about Bishop by the developers and producers label him as "A cop from the future".

5. She never displayed that or any hint of that anywhere. That's not even how she goes back in the comics. And suddenly she can send people through time all willy nilly? It doesn't even have anything to do with phasing your molecules through solid matter.

Originally posted by ares834
Create a counter measure to what?

And nothing is canon anymore (aside from FC and the past scenes of DoFP). It's an entirely new timeline.

Beast uses Raven's DNA in FC to create a serum, and later make other stuff. This is a guy who made a top notch VTOL in the sixties as well as Cerebro. You mean to tell me he can't figure out a way to overload or countermeasure a sentinel?

EDIT: Blink is mine. I will stab a bro.

Originally posted by KingD19
1. His name is still Alex Summers, and nothing is ever mentioned about them even being related. Even with
Spoiler:
Quicksilver he himself mentioned his mom knew a guy who could control metal once.

4. Every character explanation about Bishop by the developers and producers label him as "A cop from the future".

5. She never displayed that or any hint of that anywhere. That's not even how she goes back in the comics. And suddenly she can send people through time all willy nilly? It doesn't even have anything to do with phasing your molecules through solid matter.

1. Irrelevant. Until it's said in the films that Havoc is Scott's younger brother it's not a plot hole.

2. And it's not mentioned in the film... So not a plot hole.

3. Once again, irrelevant. It's a new power she developed and is not a plot-hole.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Beast uses Raven's DNA in FC to create a serum, and later make other stuff. This is a guy who made a top notch VTOL in the sixties as well as Cerebro. You mean to tell me he can't figure out a way to overload or countermeasure a sentinel?

EDIT: Blink is mine. I will stab a bro.

Trask > Beast

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Beast uses Raven's DNA in FC to create a serum, and later make other stuff. This is a guy who made a top notch VTOL in the sixties as well as Cerebro. You mean to tell me he can't figure out a way to overload or countermeasure a sentinel?

Considering he didn't, apparently not. Perhaps the Sentinels are just beyond him. Not to mention he is dead in the future.

Originally posted by ares834
Considering he didn't, apparently not. Perhaps the Sentinels are just beyond him. Not to mention he is dead in the future.

He died in X3 I think

Originally posted by ares834
1. Irrelevant. Until it's said in the films that Havoc is Scott's younger brother it's not a plot hole.

2. And it's not mentioned in the film... So not a plot hole.

3. Once again, irrelevant. It's a new power she developed and is not a plot-hole.

1. That's still iffy at best. Havok's way out of place in that timeline but whatever.

2. But if it was confirmed he was from the future, then that whole thing doesn't make sense

3. That would be nice if we knew where it came from. There's no explanation as to why she has it, she just does because its convinient.

2. It wasn't confirmed in the movie though. So I don't see the problem.

Edit: By the way, where do they say he came from the future? Because, the future scenes in DoFP are set in the future. Perhaps they were just talking about that.

3. It came from her X-gene...

Her power was Phasing. Not consciousness transference through time travel. They literally just gave that to her so she could still be somewhat crucial in the movie while giving Wolverine the reigns.

And? As her powers developed she gained a new one. I'm not sure how that's a plot hole.

By that logic everyone should've had new powers in the future. It would've made more sense had Xavier did it and even then its still would've been a bit of a stretch.

Uh, no. Just because Kitty gained new powers as she advanced that doesn't mean everyone must.

What Wakka said.

And most times powers are related to one another. What does phasing have to do with time travel?

That'd be like if Scott gained another power and he could suddenly breathe underwater.

Even when Jean went Phoenix, her powers were still tied to telepathy and telekinesis, just on a much grander scale.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Trask > Beast
Originally posted by ares834
Considering he didn't, apparently not. Perhaps the Sentinels are just beyond him. Not to mention he is dead in the future.

So... it's not relevant? Okay, sure.

Originally posted by Firefly218
He died in X3 I think

LOLNOPE. He was instrumental in undoing Mags.

Originally posted by KingD19
And most times powers are related to one another. What does phasing have to do with time travel?

What does TP have to do with TK? What does turning into diamond have to do with TP? What does enhanced sense of smell have to do with bone claws? What does teleporting have to do with looking like a demon? etc...

This isn't the first time where a mutant has a power that has little to with another.

A lot of shit prob happens in the future we didn't see. Maybe it's some sort of tech she's the only one who knows how to use. Maybe the government experimented on her and accidentally gave her the power.

This is movie canon, so her powers in the comics can be altered

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
So... it's not relevant? Okay, sure.

I'm still unsure what you were suggesting in the first place. However, if you were wondering why he was unable to stop the future Sentinels him being dead is very relevant. If it was the past sentinels, then Trask could simply be the better scientist.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

LOLNOPE. He was instrumental in undoing Mags.

K, i dont even remember X3 that well. All I remember is a whole bunch of mutants dying or being cured in the war.

Originally posted by ares834
Uh, no. Just because Kitty gained new powers as she advanced that doesn't mean everyone must.

How does a developed X gene go from phasing to time traveling consciouness powers. Also how is it that only Kitty's X gene was developed out of all the mutants present in the future.

Originally posted by Firefly218
A lot of shit prob happens in the future we didn't see. Maybe it's some sort of tech she's the only one who knows how to use. Maybe the government experimented on her and accidentally gave her the power.

This is movie canon, so her powers in the comics can be altered


It'd be nice and clear up a sizeble plot-hole if there was a sentence or two explaining that.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
How does a developed X gene go from phasing to time traveling consciouness powers. Also how is it that only Kitty's X gene was developed out of all the mutants present in the future.

Wat? Her X-gene didn't develop, she developed and learned how to use her powers.