Originally posted by juggermanNo, basically I'm not interested. You will remain a virgin whereas I will do more.
So basically you're too scared?It did poorly cuz it sucked in comparison to the 1st one. People were expecting PB2 not appearing to put Riddick into an entirely different franchise
No, it did poorly since it never caught on. CoR was a solid film.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Here is the difference between a battlezone and a regular debate. If what you say is true then you'll decimate me but of course you won't. Deep down you know I'll win so you won't step up to the plate. My argument is logical while the opposite is ignoring the characters based off of baseless claims.Go back into the darkness whence you came.
Claims you've made 'Khan has superior combat instincts to...well just about every one from every film ever'
Now let's see what that's based on. In the fight against the Klingons he fights from a slightly elevated position open from all sides and just sprays fire everywhere and thanks to some of the most severe PiS in film history rather than his own superiority doesn't get killed.
Once on board the Vengeance his tactic for reaching the bridge consisted of 'lets not run down this wide corridor. Let's run down this narrow corridor 10 feet from the wide one and hope we're not noticed.
Once he gets beat his tactic seems to be get angry and crash the ship into a building then run away.
Master tactician at work there.
You've tried to argue on that showing that he would beat genuinely superhuman level abilities across a number of characters from a number of films despite being shown time and time again with huge numbers of screen feats and your defence against them seems to consist of 'well if I haven't seen them then they don't exist'
Originally posted by jaden101Pis is an excuse fanboys use. Just wait and see when my battlezone begins. Now quit spamming up here. Argue over in versus.
Claims you've made 'Khan has superior combat instincts to...well just about every one from every film ever'Now let's see what that's based on. In the fight against the Klingons he fights from a slightly elevated position open from all sides and just sprays fire everywhere and thanks to some of the most severe PiS in film history rather than his own superiority doesn't get killed.
Once on board the Vengeance his tactic for reaching the bridge consisted of 'lets not run down this wide corridor. Let's run down this narrow corridor 10 feet from the wide one and hope we're not noticed.
Once he gets beat his tactic seems to be get angry and crash the ship into a building then run away.
Master tactician at work there.
You've tried to argue on that showing that he would beat genuinely superhuman level abilities across a number of characters from a number of films despite being shown time and time again with huge numbers of screen feats and your defence against them seems to consist of 'well if I haven't seen them then they don't exist'
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pis is an excuse fanboys use. Just wait and see when my battlezone begins. Now quit spamming up here. Argue over in versus.
There's only 1 fanboy talking in this thread and it's not me.
know you're easily confused so I'll make it clear. It's you!
Blinded by your biased/trolling. Sad really.
But yes, back to the topic at hand. This film looks like it's going back to Pitch Black because it's superior in every way that matters for a character like Riddick.
Originally posted by juggerman
[Chronicles] did poorly cuz it sucked in comparison to the 1st one. People were expecting PB2 not appearing to put Riddick into an entirely different franchise
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it did poorly since it never caught on. CoR was a solid film.
Originally posted by Robtard
And it never caught on cos it was a shitty film and word of mouth and reviews got out.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nope. Based on that logic all movies which don't make considerable profits stink.
Some of you are trying to reduce it to something simple and easy, when it isn't quite so simple...
First of all, if people were expecting PB2 (which I don't think is true), then they're idiots, because Twohy said he didn't want to do something so similar, he said he wanted to expand the mythology, have a bit more imagination with it (which is a good thing). Most good writers/directors don't like to rehash things they've already done. And the trailers reflected the expanded mythology quite obviously. Secondly, a character of this nature (dark, antihero) will almost always have a smaller following because it's not going to have a wide appeal to very many demographics (it's mainly going to be males between the ages of 18 to 30-something with a darker slant in taste). And thirdly, the genre of science fiction is a bit of a niche market, especially with darker subject matter like Riddick has. The epic space opera is an especially rare form of science fiction, but it does have a tendency to breed loyal fans, so I think that Riddick actually does have a very solid fanbase at this point, so as long as they keep the budget reasonable, they should be safe to continue the series, especially considering the profits made from DVD/blu-ray sales. I bet that DVD/blu-ray sales of CoR is largely what kept it sparkling in studio exec's eyes. Also, that fact that Vin Diesel worked for scale on the new film shows the kind of passion that this character inspires. He loves the character, it shows, and consequently it has captured many loyal fans.
“In order for us to make a true R rated film, I must work for scale upfront. Not unlike the Find me Guilty experience (which I wouldn’t have changed for the world)… Money is always second to art, integrity and spirit…"-Vin Diesel (on Riddick 3)
So "derpy-derp it sucked.." Oh, what eloquence. Stfu.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Some of you are trying to reduce it to something simple and easy, when it isn't quite so simple...First of all, if people were expecting PB2 (which I don't think is true), then they're idiots, because Twohy said he didn't want to do something so similar, he said he wanted to expand the mythology, have a bit more imagination with it (which is a good thing).
Do you always read up on what a director was hoping to accomplish BEFORE you go watch a film?
In the end, the fans spoke and he listened to them, why the 3rd film is looking a lot more like PB and not CoR. Which is a good start, though I still have little hope for this; hoping I'm pleasantly surprised by the end of the film though.
Originally posted by Robtard
Do you always read up on what a director was hoping to accomplish BEFORE you go watch a film?
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
And the trailers reflected the expanded mythology quite obviously.
Originally posted by Robtard
In the end, the fans spoke and he listened to them, why the 3rd film is looking a lot more like PB and not CoR.
Originally posted by jaden101Thanks for conceding. Hopefully, this film will retain and go into the mythology a little but more here.
There's only 1 fanboy talking in this thread and it's not me.know you're easily confused so I'll make it clear. It's you!
Blinded by your biased/trolling. Sad really.
But yes, back to the topic at hand. This film looks like it's going back to Pitch Black because it's superior in every way that matters for a character like Riddick.