Royal Rumble! Tiamut vs Galactus + Franklin Richards

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I don't see any argument there. At this point all you're doing is recycling the same defeated points you made previously, and it's clear that you'll mindlessly spam them over and over in an attempt to troll your way to "victory" in this thread.

Galactus wins btw.

Galactus HALF A GALAXY away feared his awakening.

Amped Galactus went up against 4 Rogues. KOed one no name Rogue and it was stated by the writer that he would have LOST even if they didn't merge to form Voltron.

Franklin had his hands full with only 3 (2 No Names and alt reality Eson) and would have lost if he didn't use 616 Franklin's power to rez Galactus.

Tiamut wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
The "argument' is that Tiamut was BEATING "the greatest of the Celestials" till he was jumped by FOUR MORE and a protracted battle took place in which he ultimately lost.

Galactus HALF A GALAXY away feared his awakening.

Amped Galactus went up against 4 Rogues. KOed one no name Rogue and it was stated by the writer that he would have LOST even if they didn't merge to form Voltron.

Franklin had his hands full with only 3 (2 No Names and alt reality Eson) and would have lost if he didn't use 616 Franklin's power to rez Galactus.

Tiamut wins.

Those "no-name" Celestials had more feats in 3 issues than the mainstream Celestials have had in 2 decades.

This is really a fight between Galactus and Franklin. Galactus wins after a tough battle. Tiamut is virtually a non-factor, as stated before.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Tiamut failed to kill one Celestial in an extended battle. Franklin and Galactus killed Celestials with practically one-shots. Same defeated argument repeated over and over by you is funny as hell.

Those "no-name" Celestials had more feats in 3 issues than the mainstream Celestials have had in 2 decades.

This is really a fight between Galactus and Franklin. Galactus wins after a tough battle. Tiamut is virtually a non-factor, as stated before.

Tiamut was doing battle with FIVE Celestials, one of which was Arishem and as it's stated on panel by various writers :

"The most powerful of the Celestials", "The most dangerous of the Celestials", "The leader of the Celestials" whose arrival caused the other Celestials to "fall back" PLUS FOUR MORE.

AMPED Galactus couldn't handle 3 no names and alt reality Eson (as stated by the writer himself). Franklin couldn't handle 2 no names and alt reality Eson (as shown on panel).

Tiamut wins.

And regarding the no names vs 616 Celestials. 616 Celestials have humbled skyfathers and the 2000ft destroyer. 616 Celestials have hurled MULTIPLE worlds at IG powered Thanos. 616 Celestials have had Cube Beings in fear of their lives. 616 Celestials created the X-Gene that causes some humans to evolve into cosmic level beings.

Originally posted by zopzop
Tiamut was doing battle with FIVE Celestials, one of which was Arishem and as it's stated on panel by various writers :
http://imageshack.us/a/img15/6452/mostpowerful.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img19/2653/fallbacksb.jpg

"The most powerful of the Celestials", "The most dangerous of the Celestials", "The leader of the Celestials" whose arrival caused the other Celestials to "fall back" PLUS FOUR MORE.

AMPED Galactus couldn't handle 3 no names and alt reality Eson (as stated by the writer himself). Franklin couldn't handle 2 no names and alt reality Eson (as shown on panel).

Tiamut wins.

You're the same guy that sh1ts all over narrative hyperbole and claims that it's nothing without on-panel feats to back it up, yet in this case you're blowing Arishem's power level out of proportion just because he's given flashy titles of power? GTFO here, zopocrite.

Galactus and Franklin killed Celestials in one-shots. The same Celestials who resisted an alternate UN, an alternate IG, and one of whom nearly one-shot killed a competent wielder of your precious Starbrand.

This fight is between Galactus and Franklin, and based on their on-panel portrayal at the hands of Hickman, it's honestly a toss-up between the 2. Personally I give Galactus the win. As said so many times before, Tiamut is beaten to death irrespective of who wins between Frank and G.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Again with this spammish bullsh1t. Tiamut fought Arishem in an extended battle before the rest of the Host jumped him. Tiamut failed to kill him, despite his every effort to do so.

You're the same guy that sh1ts all over narrative hyperbole and claims that it's nothing without on-panel feats to back it up, yet in this case you're blowing Arishem's power level out of proportion just because he's given flashy titles of power? GTFO here, zopocrite.

Galactus and Franklin killed Celestials in one-shots. The same Celestials who resisted an alternate UN, an alternate IG, and one of whom nearly one-shot killed a competent wielder of your precious Starbrand.

This fight is between Galactus and Franklin, and based on their on-panel portrayal at the hands of Hickman, it's honestly a toss-up between the 2. Personally I give Galactus the win. As said so many times before, Tiamut is beaten to death irrespective of who wins between Frank and G.

This is hyperbole?

And Arishem is greater still!

Tiamut faced off against the most powerful of the Celestials and just as he gained the upper hand FOUR more jumped in. So he went down fighting against FIVE 616 Celestials, one of which was stated multiple times by multiple writers as being the most powerful of them.

Galactus couldn't handle 3 no names and an alt Eson. Franklin couldn't handle 2 no names an alt Eson. It's all right there on panel.

Originally posted by zopzop
It's not hyperbole if MULTIPLE WRITERS are straight up stating Arishem is the most powerful of the Host. Their leader, the most dangerous. This wasn't one writer. This was MULTIPLE writers spanning YEARS of comics.

This is hyperbole?

And Arishem is greater still!

Tiamut faced off against the most powerful of the Celestials and just as he gained the upper hand FOUR more jumped in. So he went down fighting against FIVE 616 Celestials, one of which was stated multiple times by multiple writers as being the most powerful of them.

Galactus couldn't handle 3 no names and an alt Eson. Franklin couldn't handle 2 no names an alt Eson. It's all right there on panel.

Tiamut failed to kill one Celestial in extended combat despite having every opportunity to so. Tiamut then got subdued by the rest of the Host with not much lasting damage. At least not so much that the Host couldn't recover from. Franklin and Galactus both killed Celestials with one-shot attacks. This sh1t is simple enough for 4th graders to undertand, but I guess I am giving you way too much credit on that front.

Galactus wins. 🙂

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Except it is hyperbole. Based on on-panel feats, we know there are at least 2 Celestials who completely dwarf Arishem in power.

Tiamut failed to kill one Celestial in extended combat despite having every opportunity to so. Tiamut then got subdued by the rest of the Host with not much lasting damage. At least not so much that the Host couldn't recover from. Franklin and Galactus both killed Celestials with one-shot attacks. This sh1t is simple enough for 4th graders to undertand, but I guess I am giving you way too much credit on that front.

Galactus wins. 🙂

Tiamut was beating THE MOST POWERFUL of the Celestials in single combat till FOUR MORE 616 Celestials jumped in. Then he lost.

Galactus couldn't handle 4 (as stated by the writer himself and they didn't have to go all Voltron on him) and AFR couldn't handle 3 (as shown on panel).

Tiamut lost to FIVE (including the most powerful).

Last time I checked 5>4>3 right? Thought so.

Tiamut wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
Which two? Scathan is from an alt reality and Exitar's power level is unknown.

Tiamut was beating THE MOST POWERFUL of the Celestials in single combat till FOUR MORE 616 Celestials jumped in. Then he lost.

Galactus couldn't handle 4 (as stated by the writer himself and they didn't have to go all Voltron on him) and AFR couldn't handle 3 (as shown on panel).

Tiamut lost to FIVE (including the most powerful).

Last time I checked 5>4>3 right? Thought so.

Tiamut wins.

Btw, did I mention that Galactus won this thread? In case you didn't get the memo, then let me repeat it again: Galactus wins.

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Exitar is the most powerful Celestial, more powerful than the whole 4th host combined. One Above All Celestial is the leader of all the Celestial by his position, and Arishem by position not by power is above the other Celestials.

Im taking Galactus and Franklin!!

Tiamut is the leader and most powerful of the Celestials

That's a fact

Tiamut wins this

Tiamut is not the leader, is he more powerful than Exitar ? But is Tiamut more powerful than average Celestial, yes! Tiamut gets stomp!!

Disagree friend

Did u see when the Celestials followed Tiamut in the last story. I did

None of the Celestials beside Tiamut can sing a song turning back time nearly 14 billion years, scare the hell out of Galactus, fight over a trillion Horde whose sole purpose is the destruction of the Universe. Is he more powerful than Exitar, yes he is. U can disagree and that's cool

Tiamut the Communicator wins this

Galactus tore into the Mad Celetaials that where tanking alternate IG and Starbrand before they went Predaking on him and end up killing 2 of them, Galactus being afraid of Tiamut is pretty much misleading trying to make Tiamut relevant again. Galactus was taking on Scrier and The Other and about to rip the multiverse into oblivion if they continuing fighting. Galactus was mention by the Wacther being powerful enough to destroy the universe 10x give or take sarcasm.

Galactus and Franklin win this

I agree with Tiamut being one of the most powerful Celestial the other being Exitar,

Originally posted by the Darkone
Galactus tore into the Mad Celetaials that where tanking alternate IG and Starbrand before they went Predaking on him and end up killing 2 of them, Galactus being afraid of Tiamut is pretty much misleading trying to make Tiamut relevant again. Galactus was taking on Scrier and The Other and about to rip the multiverse into oblivion if they continuing fighting. Galactus was mention by the Wacther being powerful enough to destroy the universe 10x give or take sarcasm.

Galactus and Franklin win this

I agree with Tiamut being one of the most powerful Celestial the other being Exitar,

Proof scans that Arishem is not the leader of the Celestials, that The One Above All is? Proof scan that Exitar is more powerful than Arishem (and I don't mean that two panel splash page from that Thor Annual).

Originally posted by the Darkone
Galactus tore into the Mad Celetaials that where tanking alternate IG and Starbrand before they went Predaking on him and end up killing 2 of them, Galactus being afraid of Tiamut is pretty much misleading trying to make Tiamut relevant again. Galactus was taking on Scrier and The Other and about to rip the multiverse into oblivion if they continuing fighting. Galactus was mention by the Wacther being powerful enough to destroy the universe 10x give or take sarcasm.

Galactus and Franklin win this

I agree with Tiamut being one of the most powerful Celestial the other being Exitar,

In Tiamut credit he did beat Arishem as he was on his knees before the others got the jump on him.

And here the Prime Celestials (616) are credited to predate the known reality, shape it, and split it into a multiverse in its infancy. Its also stated that they created a reality, to be the prison of their abomination.

The four present in the begining of time are Arishem, Eson, Tiamut, and Nezarr.

I also spotted Oneg, Gammenon, and I cant make out the last one.

http://imgur.com/cjcgu27
http://imgur.com/HWgswQz

So all the infinite universes within the multiverse used to comprise a single universe, until the Celestials physically shattered it? Interesting.

Is that from Greg Pak's recent Age of Apocalypse/X-treme X-Men tie-in?

If we're using that series to prove the Celestials awesome godlike power, then on the same note Tiamut is the first to fall in battle in this thread.

Galactus will simply repeat what that energy tick whom the Celestials sealed off in the prison universe did to the Dreamer, just on a much bigger scale.

Originally posted by zopzop
The "argument' is that Tiamut was BEATING "the greatest of the Celestials" till he was jumped by FOUR MORE and a protracted battle took place in which he ultimately lost.

Galactus HALF A GALAXY away feared his awakening.

Amped Galactus went up against 4 Rogues. KOed one no name Rogue and it was stated by the writer that he would have LOST even if they didn't merge to form Voltron.

Franklin had his hands full with only 3 (2 No Names and alt reality Eson) and would have lost if he didn't use 616 Franklin's power to rez Galactus.

Tiamut wins.

Fear isn't a feat. Different writers different opinions. We go by showings instead. Galactus was one-two shotting Celestials (who tanked the UN for crying out loud).

If you gone pick and choose then at least consider all the showings. And not just the ones you want.

They are also being outside of the creation event.

Oh and is the Fulcrum TOAA?