Originally posted by Mr Master
That single issue isn't going to over-run more that 30 years of history.That story makes no sense and flips Marvel's cosmological foundation up side down.
I don't accept it until it's corroborated in another title and/or Handbook.
Originally posted by Mr Master
That single issue isn't going to over-run more that 30 years of history.That story makes no sense and flips Marvel's cosmological foundation up side down.
I don't accept it until it's corroborated in another title and/or Handbook.
We don't get to cherry pick, most recent takes precedence. Whether we like it or not.
That being said, I think most writers don't give a shit about continuity like this and they redo stuff the way they see fit depending on their current project. Particularly a writer like Pak.
Trying to fit everything into place is a waste of time and a cause for headaches.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The point is that inadvertently tearing a hole in the multiverse is a feat far beyond the scope of herald-level beings to achieve. The fact that Tiamut had enough energies to do so, without even actively participating in opening the portal himself, tells me he was fairly powerful in this event.
I haven't read the issue in question so I'm a bit confused.
Did they tear a hole through the Multiversal structure or open a hole to another reality in the Multiverse, inadvertently doing damage because of the stress time/space was under?
There's a difference.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWe don't get to cherry pick, most recent takes precedence.
Whether we like it or not.
I actually didn't accept Scathan/Protege being above the LT.
In my personally created LT respect thread, I bash that whole incident,
and give concrete reasons why that shouldn't be.
Once I noticed Protege being referenced in another issue & LT's bio,
and Scathan being referenced in both LT's & Celestials bio,
I accepted it and everyone knows I now argue on behalf of Scathan/Protege.
So again ...
I won't this recent nonsense until it's reference in another story/title, and/or handbook.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did they tear a hole through the Multiversal structure or open a hole to another reality in the Multiverse, inadvertently doing damage because of the stress time/space was under?There's a difference.
There honestly isn't. You can blow hole through a steel wall by directly firing a canon at it, or by ricocheting it from another surface. What Kurt and Beast did was analogous to the latter.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
They used the Dreaming Celestial's power to create a portal from the 616-universe to the AoA universe. They succeeded but also inadvertently opened a hole in the multiverse big enough for the Exterminators to escape their prison.There honestly isn't. You can blow hole through a steel wall by directly firing a canon at it, or by ricocheting it from another surface. What Kurt and Beast did was analogous to the latter.
It is different.
And based on what you/Id have explained, then it's not far above Herald level power at all. Thor could accomplish the same with Mjolnir, Surfer could with the Power Cosmic etc.
Let me put it this way: You can punch down a steel wall and collapse it. Or you can cut hole through a steel wall with precision (What teleporters can do). It just turns out that the wall was in such bad condition, that the precision method still brought it crumbling down.
Well whatever, I don't particularly care.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanx for the advice.I actually didn't accept Scathan/Protege being above the LT.
In my personally created LT respect thread, I bash that whole incident,
and give concrete reasons why that shouldn't be.Once I noticed Protege being referenced in another issue & LT's bio,
and Scathan being referenced in both LT's & Celestials bio,
I accepted it and everyone knows I now argue on behalf of Scathan/Protege.So again ...
I won't this recent nonsense until it's reference in another story/title, and/or handbook.
Again, current = precedence. We don't get to ignore it if it happens in a canon comic.
Call, it PIS, stupid, ignorant, disrespect for continuity I don't care. Just don't pretend it's inadmissible or invalid. Because as long as it happens in a canon comic, it is.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It is different.And based on what you/Id have explained, then it's not far above Herald level power at all. Thor could accomplish the same with Mjolnir, Surfer could with the Power Cosmic etc.
Let me put it this way: You can punch down a steel wall and collapse it. Or you can cut hole through a steel wall with precision (What teleporters can do). It just turns out that the wall was in such bad condition, that the precision method still brought it crumbling down.
I'd like to see scans regarding what makes you think that the Surfer could pull it off.
The latter is far more impressive actually. When you punch the steel wall and supposedly "collapse" it, you're just pushing it down. But when you cut a hole in it, you're actually breaking/tearing an extremely hard material as opposed to just pushing it down with your fists. My canon firing analogy is more suitable in this case, because of unintentional nature of hole that they tore.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well whatever, I don't particularly care.
Originally posted by zopzop
Not really. A simple Asgardian axe dipped in Odin's blood or something just killed a Celestial.
Originally posted by zopzop
Marvel is all over the place. 😆
Originally posted by zopzop
Not really. A simple Asgardian axe dipped in Odin's blood or something just killed a Celestial.