ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi Vs Mace Windu

Started by Galan0076 pages

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Galan buddy.. At least you agree anger was the dominate emotion he was feeling, and he likely wasn't feeling much else besides that.

What he was feeling BEFORE that fight isn't really relevant to what he was feeling. As i said... Just because a guy kills a little innocent kid.. do you think he'll be thinking about that when if a guy attacks him in a alley with a knife or will he he fight to survive and not have that in his mind. Seems obvious he won't be thinking of that much if at all. Further, what if siad guy kills a little kid and then runs into a guy who murdered his mother or who stole his wife and he's coming to kill him. Do you honestly think he'll be thinking of the innocent kid he killed? Come on big buddy. Anakin's emotions before the fight clearly don't indicate how he was feeling at the time. His actions showed the EXACT OPOOSITE of feeling anything bug angry or power hungry...

1. He never admitted to Kenobi or padme he was wrong or made a mistake.
2. Shit, he didn't even show a gesture that he was upset.. not holding down of the head.. no shaking of the head.. NOTHING that indicated he was upset by what he did. If there was a person or time to admit it or show it.. it would be with his love or kenobi... He showed NONE of that.
3. Too make it worse he then tries to kill his love.. yet you're telling me he was feeling guilty or remorseful... Not only would've he have shown something like that.. he certainly wouldn't have tried to kill her if he was feeling the least bit of anything like that.
4. There was mention of Kenobi holding back against anakin yet not ONE mention of Anakin holding back.. NOT ONE.. You would think if he waw feeling anything other than anger.. he would feel upset or hold back from killing his brother father figure.. NO sign of that.

I think it's beyond clear he wasn't feeling much of anything. If he was, it was so slight it was insignifcant to the battle at hand.

So you're telling me that the very stong emotions of guilt/remorse/confliction/doubt that Lucas stated Anakin was experiencing a few scenes before he battled Kenobi just... Went away? Nah.

Given that we literally SAW Anakin crying on Mustafar over all the evil things he'd done, you're never going to get me to buy-off on the notion that he stopped feeling those emotions, just because he also displayed rage toward Kenobi during that battle. Fact is, Vader experienced the emotions Lucas referenced until the day he died.

Maul: "What could you hate enough to destroy me?"
Vader: "Myself."

So yeah, no sense arguing with me about this any further, because I'm not going to agree.

Fair enough, but the movie is quite clear.. he showed NO signs of anything other than Rage/Anger and lust for power when he met Kenobi. Not one sign of anything else. Could it have been there.. even a little.. sure... did it effect him in battle.. nah I saw no evidence it did so I'll go with that. However, as you said.. we're just not going to agree on this matter and that is fine.