CIS-Less Surfer Assault

Originally posted by Juntai
Correct, because that's covered under Full Capacity.

Now, like Supes wouldnt go killing or ripping limbs off like Galan mentioned, but he -will- blitz the bejesus out of you, overwhelm you, and put you down.

Apparently it is in Superman and Flash's characters to accept and allow themselves to be beaten/stabbed into a KO/death in slow motion, and it's not PIS. One hitKO? Sure, one could argue that. But a prolonged beating in slow motion, taking place over years from their perspective, is apparently the same as Surfer not shooting black holes in his opponents' dicks.

Originally posted by Juntai
tbh, Surfer is probably more likely to hit a draining limit than he is to drain Hulks powers at this point.

It used to be fairly common to drain him as a weakness once upon a time, but I have my doubts these days.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We don't even need to go into blitzing - just defensive use of his speed powers is enough to drive posters into fits and accusations of hypocrisy.

Apparently it is in Superman and Flash's characters to accept and allow themselves to be beaten/stabbed into a KO/death in slow motion, and it's not PIS. One hitKO? Sure, one could argue that. But a prolonged beating in slow motion, taking placyover years from their perspective, is apparently the same as Surfer not shooting black holes in his opponents' dicks.

Even times that Superman has been temporarily downed is 100 percent because he's purposely scaling himself to his opponents and ramps up as needed, and he can be surprised and momentarily beaten while holding back. Full capacity undoes all that though.

I thought Superman super speed needs to be activated (pointing to the time Superman and Flash was in the diner and Superman had to up his perception to keep up with Flash).

https://ibb.co/drfpr57

Originally posted by tkitna
Ok. Those were two examples, but yes they are old. Admittingly, i'm not up to date on the Hulk as most are on this board so the examples might not even be valid at this point. Characters change week to week it seems. I'm interested in others peoples opinions if Surfer could still do that today, because honestly i'm not 100% certain.

There is no simple yes or no answer, as that depends on the Hulk incarnation.

Some are incredibly resistant to having their energies tampered with (WWH), some are extremely vulnerable to it - such as Savage or Immortal versions.

But you knew that already, you just pretended not to.

Originally posted by carver9
I thought Superman super speed needs to be activated (pointing to the time Superman and Flash was in the diner and Superman had to up his perception to keep up with Flash).

https://ibb.co/drfpr57

Carver, this was explained to you by Phildo, Galan and myself five years ago:

https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=659628&pagenumber=3

Originally posted by carver9
I thought Superman super speed needs to be activated (pointing to the time Superman and Flash was in the diner and Superman had to up his perception to keep up with Flash).

https://ibb.co/drfpr57

Superman can increase his speed of perceptions to match flash attosecond levels by concentrating.
But his normal state he's already in superspeed perception levels.
There are scans proving it.

It's like Surfer already being class 100 but can amp himself even higher.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can increase his speed of perceptions to match flash attosecond levels by concentrating.
But his normal state he's already in superspeed perception levels.
There are scans proving it.

It's like Surfer already being class 100 but can amp himself even higher.

That's not true. One, Flash wasn't moving at attosecond speeds there, and two, Flash was holding back his speed (he admitted this in the same comic), casually running, and a sweating Supes still had a hard time catching him.

https://ibb.co/VVq28bV

Again, Flash was casually running there, and he was casually grabbing that pie.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not true. One, Flash wasn't moving at attosecond speeds there, and two, Flash was holding back his speed (he admitted this in the same comic), casually running, and a sweating Supes still had a hard time catching him.

https://ibb.co/VVq28bV

Again, Flash was casually running there, and he was casually grabbing that pie.

That just shows.....Flash is the Fastest Man Alive?

Just because Tyson would struggle to keep up with Usain Bolt, doesn't mean Tyson is slow lmao. Or that I would be able to out react Tyson.

@H1 - that link I posted has people - including a mod - explain to Carver why that scan is silly to use as proof. Feel free to steal our arguments.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not true. One, Flash wasn't moving at attosecond speeds there, and two, Flash was holding back his speed (he admitted this in the same comic), casually running, and a sweating Supes still had a hard time catching him.

https://ibb.co/VVq28bV

Again, Flash was casually running there, and he was casually grabbing that pie.

What's not true?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver, this was explained to you by Phildo, Galan and myself five years ago:

https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=659628&pagenumber=3

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There is no simple yes or no answer, as that depends on the Hulk incarnation.

Some are incredibly resistant to having their energies tampered with (WWH), some are extremely vulnerable to it - such as Savage or Immortal versions.

But you knew that already, you just pretended not to.

Honestly Stilt, I didn't. Savage is who we're talking about, but I don't know what version of the Hulk is running around currently or if the savage version has changed and been amped or if he even exists anymore.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not true. One, Flash wasn't moving at attosecond speeds there, and two, Flash was holding back his speed (he admitted this in the same comic), casually running, and a sweating Supes still had a hard time catching him.

https://ibb.co/VVq28bV

Again, Flash was casually running there, and he was casually grabbing that pie.

How casually do you think he is running here?

Originally posted by tkitna
Honestly Stilt, I didn't.

Originally posted by carver9
I thought Superman super speed needs to be activated (pointing to the time Superman and Flash was in the diner and Superman had to up his perception to keep up with Flash).

https://ibb.co/drfpr57

If it was anyone else I would assume they just misread the scan and needed clarifying. With you, it's clear you're just a trolling dick.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If it was anyone else I would assume they just misread the scan and needed clarifying. With you, it's clear you're just a trolling dick.

Lmmfao... I'm not trolling.

I still think Surfer stomps anyone here, some easier than others.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If it was anyone else I would assume they just misread the scan and needed clarifying. With you, it's clear you're just a trolling dick.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
Lmmfao... I'm not trolling.

We can even get into how they compare to Flash, and Wonder Woman being a joke:
https://ibb.co/r3VbfXX

So, my smooth brained carvy, stop the trolling.

The thread of 2020
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=17099425#post17099425

Carver's post in 2024

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, Flash is obviously faster, but it shows she does have running speeds to keep up with attosecond Flash temporarily...

https://ibb.co/SvpBbH7

Edit:
DS also pointed out that the argument and scan you used in this thread was countered by a thread a few years ago.....So yeah, it hardly to believe someone would do this(repetition, of multiple arguments that get countered just a few years ago) unintentionally

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
TBF, Philo did once replied to you with the scene to you. To show that WW is a joke compared to Flash. Just a few years ago, when you argued who is faster between Superman and Wonder Woman

The thread of 2020
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=17099425#post17099425

Carver's post in 2024

Edit:
DS also pointed out that the argument and scan you used in this thread was countered by a thread a few years ago.....So yeah, it hardly to believe someone would do this(repetition, of multiple arguments that get countered just a few years ago) unintentionally

In that same post, I said Flash is faster (he's MUCH faster than anyone tbh). The scene that you all are discussing between Superman and Flash is Flash being mind controlled and even admitting he was fighting against it so that Superman could catch him.

Flash admitted he toys around with Superman (and Wonder Woman) when it comes to speed.

Originally posted by carver9
In that same post, I said Flash is faster (he's MUCH faster than anyone tbh). The scene that you all are discussing between Superman and Flash is Flash being mind controlled and even admitting he was fighting against it so that Superman could catch him.

Flash admitted he toys around with Superman (and Wonder Woman) when it comes to speed.

The two posts you made one was trying to say Diana can keep up with Flash to prove her speed. But in reality, Flash is running backwards and still beating Diana.

The other was trying to prove Superman needs to active his superspeed. But in reality, as pointed out by another thread, your scan can't prove it, and quite ironically, it actually hurts your case.