Superman and Silver Surfer vs Thor and Loki

Started by Bentley19 pages
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Surfer instantly amping Superman to OWAW levels

I don't see why Surfer would refrain from Sun-amping Kal though, seems a legitimate strategy to steamroll Thor -assuming they can dispose Loki before his magic poses a threat to Superman-.

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't see why Surfer would refrain from Sun-amping Kal though, seems a legitimate strategy to steamroll Thor -assuming they can dispose Loki before his magic poses a threat to Superman-.

If you wanna get into that mindset then they lose.

Loki can do so much more in the amping department.

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't see why Surfer would refrain from Sun-amping Kal though, seems a legitimate strategy to steamroll Thor -assuming they can dispose Loki before his magic poses a threat to Superman-.

Because Surfer's going to be too busy defending himself to be concerned with amping Superman for one thing. And for another it's about as likely as Surfer attempting to depower Superman using solar energies or synthesizing Kryptonite radiation with Cosmic Awareness.

And if go the amping route, Loki's much more likely to amp Thor (as he's done it before in addition to amping other beings or giving them power) than Surfer would amp a stranger he's fighting alongside in a battle.

Originally posted by curryman
At Superman's realistic levels, yes.

Not with CBR Superman.


Do you know what's superman's average speed level?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you know what's superman's average speed level?

There's an established average? 🙂

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because Surfer's going to be too busy defending himself to be concerned with amping Superman for one thing. And for another it's about as likely as Surfer attempting to depower Superman using solar energies or synthesizing Kryptonite radiation with Cosmic Awareness.

Surfer has used weakness exploitation, like once in the past. So it's... Expected? It depends on whether or not Surfer knows that Superman can be amped, and though I don't expect them to use it every single battle, it's feasible, I mean, it would likely happen in a comic book featuring both of them.

Also while Thor is a powerful offensive threat, Loki is not going to present that much of a trouble inmediately considering the level of durability Surfer and Kal carry. It's a legitimate strategy, even if you can argue if it would work at all, Loki does carry magic.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And if go the amping route, Loki's much more likely to amp Thor (as he's done it before in addition to amping other beings or giving them power) than Surfer would amp a stranger he's fighting alongside in a battle.

Nobody is preventing Loki from amping Thor, I'm just pointing out Superman being amped by Surfer is not as sketchy as either soloing or Superman absorbing Godblasts -why would Thor throw Godblasts at all anyways?-.

Originally posted by curryman
There's an established average? 🙂

His normal combat speed. Its beyond the likes of thor and loki.

Originally posted by abhilegend
His normal combat speed. Its beyond the likes of thor and loki.

No.

The Classic Loki vs Classic Surfer fight was a clear stalemate.

But if anything the comic suggested it's actually Loki whose the more powerful of the 2.

Btw I remember a New Avengers comic where Loki turns the Avengers all into Cardboard with a wave of his hand. Including Hulk and Juggernaut. Anyone know if that's canon?

Originally posted by curryman
No.

Wanna bet?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wanna bet?

bet what?

Originally posted by curryman
bet what?

Superman is far faster than thor/loki even if we take his average feats and their highest feats?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman is far faster than thor/loki even if we take his average feats and their highest feats?

What are we betting?

Who's established his average?

Why are you putting Thor/Loki in the same category?

Originally posted by curryman
What are we betting?

Who's established his average?

Why are you putting Thor/Loki in the same category?


Superman's speed vs Thor/Loki's speed.

I did.

Its not much different. Both are slow as phuck.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman's speed vs Thor/Loki's speed.

I did.

Its not much different. Both are slow as phuck.

Not what we are betting on, but what we are betting.

So you'd be the judge? 's about the same justice Saddam got 😆

What constitutes as slow as phuck?

Originally posted by curryman
Not what we are betting [b]on, but what we are betting.

So you'd be the judge? 's about the same justice Saddam got 😆

What constitutes as slow as phuck? [/B]


Nothing of course.
😂
Being slower than spidey and wolverine.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nothing of course.
😂
Being slower than spidey and wolverine.

So we're not betting then?

We could take it to the battlezone if you want.

Loki's speed vs Wolverine.

Loser leaves KMC forever.

Originally posted by curryman
So we're not betting then?

We could take it to the battlezone if you want.

Loki's speed vs Wolverine.

Loser leaves KMC forever.


That's a way of speech.

Why would I argue about wolverine's speed?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's a way of speech.

Why would I argue about wolverine's speed?

You made a claim that Wolverine and Spidey were faster than Loki and Thor.

So you're not going to bet anything?

Originally posted by curryman
You made a claim that Wolverine and Spidey were faster than Loki and Thor.

So you're not going to bet anything?


Which they are. Recall mongoose and spidey blitzing masterson. Thor himself conceded about logan.

Yeah.