Superman and Silver Surfer vs Thor and Loki

Started by Zack Fair19 pages

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Also, phuck Wolverine.
That is all you had to say

Wolverine is the best at what he does, IE being the worst character in comics.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
That is all you had to say

Best rendition of Cyke ever, imo.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Also, phuck Wolverine.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
That is all you had to say

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Ok, So let me see if I'm getting this straight. We are using Thor's best speed examples to tag someone, who might be slower than Superman, but We are using Superman's not best examples where he gets tagged by slower characters than him?

I doubt he will be able to react accordingly to the levels of speed we are talking in here at least when it comes to limbs movement

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Ok, So let me see if I'm getting this straight. We are using Thor's best speed examples to tag someone, who might be slower than Superman, but We are using Superman's not best examples where he gets tagged by slower characters than him?

I doubt he will be able to react accordingly to the levels of speed we are talking in here at least when it comes to limbs movement

How do you figure?

Thor being able to tag superspeedsters as the norm (not using his best speed feats) =/= using low speed feats for Superman.

Superman is faster than Thor. No one's saying he's not. But he's not going to be untouchable for Thor when you look at the overwhelming majority of comics from both characters.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How do you figure?

Thor being able to tag superspeedsters as the norm (not using his best speed feats) =/= using low speed feats for Superman.

Superman is faster than Thor. No one's saying he's not. But he's not going to be untouchable for Thor when you look at the overwhelming majority of comics from both characters.

He could eventually tag him If Superman is slowing his super senses yes. Question is how many shots can Thor withstand before he actually tags Superman back. What will be the punch/attack - punch/attack ratio this two will be getting into?

I think Superman may have the advantage there.

Of course he does.

At least Thor has shown he can take a beating.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
He could eventually tag him If Superman is slowing his super senses yes. Question is how many shots can Thor withstand before he actually tags Superman back. What will be the punch/attack - punch/attack ratio this two will be getting into?

I think Superman may have the advantage there.

Thor will tag Superman. As far as an actual ratio goes, it's impossible to tell and any answer will likely be in the vein of h1 "calculations" and this thread doesn't need that crap.

Based on feats, Thor can withstand a lot.

And yes, Superman has a speed advantage...something no one is denying at all.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor will tag Superman. As far as an actual ratio goes, it's impossible to tell and any answer will likely be in the vein of h1 "calculations" and this thread doesn't need that crap.

Based on feats, Thor can withstand a lot.

And yes, Superman has a speed advantage...something no one is denying at all.

We can be unfair to Superman's speed and say this two will be getting a two to one ratio.

I picture this as Hulk getting two punches for every Thor punch.

Imo this will tax Thor a lot, even if he is capable of taking beatings

I think is a hard battle in the end for all of them.

Most everyone does.

It is the insane fella that thinks Superman's entire history can be used in debates who causes the mayhem

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
We can be unfair to Superman's speed and say this two will be getting a two to one ratio.

I picture this as Hulk getting two punches for every Thor punch.

Imo this will tax Thor a lot, even if he is capable of taking beatings

I think is a hard battle in the end for all of them.

There's also the fact that Surfer and Loki are factors in this fight and Thor (and Superman, too) have means of offense outside of punches.

Trying to calculate or even hazard a guess of exactly how many punches Thor will land compared to Superman is going to be wild and rampant speculation. What we do know is that both of them will be able to hit and defend against the other, with Superman having a speed advantage and Thor having several ways to get around that.

I do agree that it's a hard battle for all involved. Anyone who doesn't is an idiot, tbh. 👆

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Most everyone does.

It is the insane fella that thinks Superman's entire history can be used in debates who causes the mayhem

😂 You always made me crack up 👆

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

I do agree that it's a hard battle for all involved. Anyone who doesn't is an idiot, tbh. 👆

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How do you figure?

Thor being able to tag superspeedsters as the norm (not using his best speed feats) =/= using low speed feats for Superman.

Superman is faster than Thor. No one's saying he's not. But he's not going to be untouchable for Thor when you look at the overwhelming majority of comics from both characters.

jake, can you put aside your massive throbbing thor bias for a sec and answer this honestly:

if superman wanted to be untouchable, do you think thor could tag him?

Originally posted by Starscream M
jake, can you put aside your massive throbbing thor bias for a sec and answer this honestly:

if superman wanted to be untouchable, do you think thor could tag him?

Yes, I'm showing massive Thor bias when I clearly have stated several times that I feel Team 1 could win and am currently undecided as to which team would walk away the winner.

I don't think Superman could ever become truly untouchable to begin with.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, I'm showing massive Thor bias when I clearly have stated several times that I feel Team 1 could win and am currently undecided as to which team would walk away the winner.

I don't think Superman could ever become truly untouchable to begin with.

ok, just wanted to get your take.

superman is a guy who has matched Flash in speed, and Flash can certainly become untouchable to thor imo

Except, Superman doesn't always utilize that. Regardless, team 1!

Whoever Loki fights on team 1, he will lose. Im not saying he is the weaklink, but that's what causes team 1 to win

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, just wanted to get your take.

superman is a guy who has matched Flash in speed, and Flash can certainly become untouchable to thor imo

Superman matched Flash's current state of speed, which isn't at all like him being equal to him in speed, either. Flash also exhibits and uses his speed far more often and to greater degrees than Superman does. If Flash fights in character like the overwhelming majority of his comics suggest, he'll be difficult for Thor to attack, but not impossible. Unless of course you want to pitch out the majority of comics in favor for his ridiculous feats and act like that's the norm for him and in character when its anything but.

It'd be like me saying Thor floods the area with the storms of a hundred worlds and absorbs all the energy thrown at him as Loki amps him and makes them both mystically undetectable to the degree where even Odin can't sense them as Loki starts mentally assaulting Surfer and Thor.

Flash himself is such a PIS induced character. His powerset kind of makes it that way =\