Originally posted by Rao Kal El, his stats change from one moment to the next. despite not being hurt, he probably wasnt that tough at that particular moment.
What is contradictory under the same writer is that He is portraying Hulk's guts capable of tanking 133 hercs.But apparently Hulk's head can only tank one herc with out visiting the ground.
Seriously I should just take Pak's word and forget anything that has been shown to me before after all that is canon now 😕
Sometimes I feel Pak troll the boards as Carver 😛
Originally posted by carver9
What if I said "Superman lifted Earth weights but after this showing, he has only shown mountain level punches". Does that discredit the ft or does that Superman lifting ft still belong to him? Also, "Herc surprised attacked him...whats so hard to understand?By the way, I'm not discrediting the Superman ft because it belong to him...trying to prove a point.
I see your point Carver.
First We have seen WWH under Pak tank one herc (even if he is distracted)
Now, We have his internal organs tanking 133 hercs of force.
Same writer
What could be the most likely conclusion?
1.- An herc is an inaccurate measurement, Hulk's internal organs cannot tank 133 herc, nor his head
2.- An herc is an accurate measurement, Hulk's internal organs can tank 133 herc but his head can't
3.- An Herc is accurate measure, current Hulk internal organs can tank 133 hercs, but WWH cannot tank one herc, because this current Hulk is more powerful than WWH.
The same could apply to Superman's feat. And probably answer 1 or 3 could be the one that will be more logical to me
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I see your point Carver.First We have seen WWH under Pak tank one herc (even if he is distracted)
Now, We have his internal organs tanking 133 hercs of force.
Same writer
What could be the most likely conclusion?
1.- An herc is an inaccurate measurement, Hulk's internal organs cannot tank 133 herc, nor his head
2.- An herc is an accurate measurement, Hulk's internal organs can tank 133 herc but his head can't
3.- An Herc is accurate measure, current Hulk internal organs can tank 133 hercs, but WWH cannot tank one herc, because this current Hulk is more powerful than WWH.
The same could apply to Superman's feat. And probably answer 1 or 3 could be the one that will be more logical to me
4. You don't know much about Hulk, so have no idea that Hulk's durability (and ALL his physical stats) amp and fall off as a function of emotional stress (anger, most famously).
The greater the opposing force, the stronger Hulk gets, usually.
Originally posted by janus77
4. You don't know much about Hulk, so have no idea that Hulk's durability (and ALL his physical stats) amp and fall off as a function of emotional stress (anger, most famously).The greater the opposing force, the stronger Hulk gets, usually.
That was option 3 "this current Hulk is more powerful than WWH"
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That was option 3 "this current Hulk is more powerful than WWH"
Think about it, how on Earth can they have Hulk fighting (and smashing) Galaxy Master and then going on to fight characters like Thing?
Or overpowering The Gardener and then having a knock-down, drag-out with Namor?
Hulk's physical stats are dynamic not just between arcs but also within the same arc and even within the same story, depending on how strong/tough he feels he needs to be.
Originally posted by janus77
No, not really. His durability and strength were varying throughout WWH and Planet Hulk and have done so long before (and since too).Think about it, how on Earth can they have Hulk fighting (and smashing) Galaxy Master and then going on to fight characters like Thing?
Or overpowering The Gardener and then having a knock-down, drag-out with Namor?
Hulk's physical stats are dynamic not just between arcs but also within the same arc and even within the same story, depending on how strong/tough he feels he needs to be.
Based on evidence at this particular case
WWH can take 1 Herc
Current Hulk internal organs can tank 133 hercs
Therefore the dynamic physical stats of this two hulks are different depending on how strong/tough he feels he needs to be meaning this current hulk is > wwh
Originally posted by 753
his stats change in seconds as the plot requires it
That can work in his favour, when the writer can't be bothered to make too intricate a fight and just goes "Hulk Smash" (whenever Hulk faces off against Nightmare, he just seems to beat the shit out of him, physically).
And then there's the times when writers want to give Thing or Wolverine or Namor some "screen time" and extend what should be a one-panel, one-punch "fight" into a great epic of back and forth with tension in every panel ...
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Based on evidence at this particular caseWWH can take 1 Herc
Current Hulk internal organs can tank 133 hercs
Therefore the dynamic physical stats of this two hulks are different depending on how strong/tough he feels he needs to be meaning this current hulk is > wwh
WWH was healing from ZomStrange's punches in panels, from Sentry's best attacks without effort and before that GreenScar was bathed in nukes and lava without any effect whatsoever.
Yet, even with such astounding strength/durability, he got a bloodied nose from Thing, he was cut up by Wolverine, he got phased into the ground by Kitty ... He's always been dynamic.
Current Hulk has shown nothing that Green Scar didn't better (during Planet Hulk or WWH).
Originally posted by ODG
According to Marvel, Zeus is waaay stronger than Hercules. Considering Zeus beat the utter stuffing out of WWH and Hercules only managed to topple him briefly.
I still read the comments on Pak's facebook page every once and a while just for the lulz. It was full on meltdown time after that beating lol...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=187684681255000&id=123469367709789
Based on the evidence, If that conclusion of current Hulk > WWH is not correct, then it means a herc is a wrong calculation.
You can pick any conclusion you want.
But if 1 herc downs WWH and 133 hercs don't down a weaker version of Hulk then what is the conclusion We should pick?
That current Hulk can tank 133 hercs but WWH can't when WWH is supposed to have better stats than current Hulk?
IMO IS either
Herc measure is innacurate
herc measure is accurate , but current Hulk is > WWH (maybe WWH holds back more than current Hulk)
Originally posted by carver9
That was WWH. Him saying complete sentences unlike current Hulk (who has only talked once) .
Ill check it out later on. The scans provided have some missing pages.
But that Hulk does not seems to be at the same level of rage as in the WWH arc, IMO.
Now, go to sleep, too late for you buddy. 😛